blueonblue
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You can not justify positive discrimination on the grounds " that the scales were unfairly balanced for so long", if it was wrong then, how can it be right now simply because it works the other way ?.
"Your statements are not true as you seem to be suggesting that minorities that work in the fields you mentioned are all less qualified than their white counterparts".
No I didnt, I stated the fact that in those area`s possitive discrimination is used, so people are not judged on ability but set targets for minorities, women, disabled, ect, it was you who made the claim that minorities get the jobs because they are better qualified and more buisness minded.
"That simply is not true for a people who were not even allowed to get an education let alone apply for jobs up until recent times"
Try reading up on British history for f*ck sake, that statment covered women untill just before the first world war, and the late eighteen hundreds for everyone else, the difference is people fought for those "Rights" here.
Decent wages, education for children, working conditions, and fredom of speach, was paid for in blood and suffering both in wars and industrial actions , it was never free so try again with your "None of us have been given a hand to achieve anything".
Your whole slant on this nutter is that he is racist, and he may well be, yet the victims of his killing spree were not minorities but political, he raged against the political system because he claims there was things happening to "His" country he disagreed with but no redress was possible under a system that just carried on without a mandate from the people.
Unless this side of things is highlighted then he will be filed under racist nutter rather than a product of the kind of political system that has emerged under the EU.
"Your statements are not true as you seem to be suggesting that minorities that work in the fields you mentioned are all less qualified than their white counterparts".
No I didnt, I stated the fact that in those area`s possitive discrimination is used, so people are not judged on ability but set targets for minorities, women, disabled, ect, it was you who made the claim that minorities get the jobs because they are better qualified and more buisness minded.
"That simply is not true for a people who were not even allowed to get an education let alone apply for jobs up until recent times"
Try reading up on British history for f*ck sake, that statment covered women untill just before the first world war, and the late eighteen hundreds for everyone else, the difference is people fought for those "Rights" here.
Decent wages, education for children, working conditions, and fredom of speach, was paid for in blood and suffering both in wars and industrial actions , it was never free so try again with your "None of us have been given a hand to achieve anything".
Your whole slant on this nutter is that he is racist, and he may well be, yet the victims of his killing spree were not minorities but political, he raged against the political system because he claims there was things happening to "His" country he disagreed with but no redress was possible under a system that just carried on without a mandate from the people.
Unless this side of things is highlighted then he will be filed under racist nutter rather than a product of the kind of political system that has emerged under the EU.