CitizenTID
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Chancy Termites said:
It's because it can be perceived as an inverted Nazi salute.
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Anelka
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It's because it can be perceived as an inverted Nazi salute.
Dubai Blue
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How does the latter have anything whatsoever to do with Zoopla, West Bromich Albion and Nicolas Anelka? You may as well have compared Anelka's actions to child abuse in the Catholic Church for all the relevance it has to the discussion.VOOMER said:So Anelka's sign of support is a bigger cause of unrest than illegal occupation of land and illegal settlements built on them?
Zoopla's brand has been directly damaged by Anelka's dickheadishness and they are in a position to do something about it. Assuming these illegal settlements aren't called something like Zoopla Occupation City, what exactly do you want this private company to do about the policy of a foreign government that is situated 2,500 miles away from the market in which it operates?
I can't help but think about Bert Trautmann when participating in this thread. Here is one of many similar accounts:
In 1948, Manchester City, a member of England’s First Division, a precursor of today’s Premier League, signed him. More than 20,000 people demonstrated against his hiring. Season ticket-holders threatened a boycott. Letters of protest poured in. “Does City expect supporters to go and watch a German playing football with men the Germans tried to kill?” one letter writer asked. Taking the field for his first match, Trautmann was met by chants of “Sieg heil!”
But the unmistakable soccer prowess he had gained in Germany soon won over the fans. After City visited London to play Fulham and lost, 1-0, sportswriters concurred that the score could have easily been 6-0 had Trautmann not made a number of dazzling saves. Players from both teams lined up to applaud him.
Trautmann’s acceptance by fans was aided by Dr. Alexander Altmann, a Manchester rabbi who had fled from Hitler. Rabbi Altmann issued a statement saying that Trautmann should not be punished for his country’s crimes.
Trautmann himself is quoted as follows: Thanks to Altmann, after a month it was all forgotten, says Trautmann. Later, I went into the Jewish community and tried to explain things. I tried to give them an understanding of the situation for people in Germany in the 1930s and their bad circumstances. I asked if they had been in the same position, under a dictatorship, how they would have reacted? By talking like that, people began to understand.
The point being, Trautmann (eventually) wasn't judged for the actions of the German government & military, despite being both German & in their army - he was judged as people found him as a man. So why should British Jews such as the part owner of Zoopla, who are neither Israeli or members of their army and therefore much more removed from Israeli policy than Trautmann was from Germany, have what Israel does in their home country even brought up in a discussion about them ?
It's idiots like Voomer who are incredibly dangerous in continually bringing up references to Israel's foreign/domestic policy (it's arguable as to which it is !) when there is a discussion about anti-semitism. Quite rightly, although Anelka is a Muslim, not one person makes reference to the policies of Muslim States that we may or may not agree with. So why bring up Israel in all this ?
The guy that Anelka was copying is an open holocaust denier, he made & starred in a film called 'the anti-semite' and his shows are banned because of their strong anti-semitic nature - we as Brits didn't know that before a few weeks ago but in France it's been a hot topic for months - Anelka knew that, knew the associations of the gesture, still carried it out and Voomer wants to talk about Israeli settlements which he somehow tries to justify because it's under the banner of a discussion about an anti-Semitic gesture
In 1948, Manchester City, a member of England’s First Division, a precursor of today’s Premier League, signed him. More than 20,000 people demonstrated against his hiring. Season ticket-holders threatened a boycott. Letters of protest poured in. “Does City expect supporters to go and watch a German playing football with men the Germans tried to kill?” one letter writer asked. Taking the field for his first match, Trautmann was met by chants of “Sieg heil!”
But the unmistakable soccer prowess he had gained in Germany soon won over the fans. After City visited London to play Fulham and lost, 1-0, sportswriters concurred that the score could have easily been 6-0 had Trautmann not made a number of dazzling saves. Players from both teams lined up to applaud him.
Trautmann’s acceptance by fans was aided by Dr. Alexander Altmann, a Manchester rabbi who had fled from Hitler. Rabbi Altmann issued a statement saying that Trautmann should not be punished for his country’s crimes.
Trautmann himself is quoted as follows: Thanks to Altmann, after a month it was all forgotten, says Trautmann. Later, I went into the Jewish community and tried to explain things. I tried to give them an understanding of the situation for people in Germany in the 1930s and their bad circumstances. I asked if they had been in the same position, under a dictatorship, how they would have reacted? By talking like that, people began to understand.
The point being, Trautmann (eventually) wasn't judged for the actions of the German government & military, despite being both German & in their army - he was judged as people found him as a man. So why should British Jews such as the part owner of Zoopla, who are neither Israeli or members of their army and therefore much more removed from Israeli policy than Trautmann was from Germany, have what Israel does in their home country even brought up in a discussion about them ?
It's idiots like Voomer who are incredibly dangerous in continually bringing up references to Israel's foreign/domestic policy (it's arguable as to which it is !) when there is a discussion about anti-semitism. Quite rightly, although Anelka is a Muslim, not one person makes reference to the policies of Muslim States that we may or may not agree with. So why bring up Israel in all this ?
The guy that Anelka was copying is an open holocaust denier, he made & starred in a film called 'the anti-semite' and his shows are banned because of their strong anti-semitic nature - we as Brits didn't know that before a few weeks ago but in France it's been a hot topic for months - Anelka knew that, knew the associations of the gesture, still carried it out and Voomer wants to talk about Israeli settlements which he somehow tries to justify because it's under the banner of a discussion about an anti-Semitic gesture
MillionDollarDream
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Apparently his controversy has cost West Brom their shirt sponsorship.
<a class="postlink" href="http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcdNz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcdNz</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcdNz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcdNz</a>
mcmanus
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If you'd have asked me who was Villa's shirt sponsor a few week's ago I'd struggle. I now know what they do and how moral they are.
You can't pay for publicity like that.
You can't pay for publicity like that.
Prestwich_Blue
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They aren't now. ;-)mcmanus said:If you'd have asked me who was Villa's shirt sponsor a few week's ago I'd struggle. I now know what they do and how moral they are.
You can't pay for publicity like that.
zandvoort blue
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mcmanus said:If you'd have asked me who was Villa's shirt sponsor a few week's ago I'd struggle. I now know what they do and how moral they are.
You can't pay for publicity like that.
Too right....Zoopla milking the moment. And let`s get this right Zoopla have not dumped WBA as Sky keep repeating, their deal comes to an end in June. WBA already have an alternative lined up to take over club sponsorship. Sounds more like Zoopla are trying to force WBA into footballing decisions, and have consequently been dumped.
dazdon
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It's a fuck Zoopla kinda moment :-)
Barcon
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mcmanus said:If you'd have asked me who was Villa's shirt sponsor a few week's ago I'd struggle. I now know what they do and how moral they are.
You can't pay for publicity like that.
Agreed, but I still don't know what they do or sell.