Angelino

[Neville Kneville]

What a load of bollocks at this stage.

Yes Angelino will have to be physically stronger & none of us know yet whether he will become that. But judging on how much stronger he is now than he was in August, I'd say the signs were very good. He is very close already to being wingback material for the 1st team. Fullback needs a bit more.

Would I like to see him against us, in the Premier League, flying down the wing on the end of a pass out wide with Zabaleta trying to get over there and cover him ? Fucking NO ! Not at all tbh !

 

[keemcfc]

He still has plenty of time to better the defensive/physical side of his game, and even if he falls short in those aspects I'd wager that he has more than enough raw talent, speed and trickery to perhaps make a transition to become a good winger. And you know how much everyone's been screaming for a young pacey left sided winger over the last few years ;)

 

[sam-caddick]

What a load of bollocks at this stage.

Yes Angelino will have to be physically stronger & none of us know yet whether he will become that. But judging on how much stronger he is now than he was in August, I'd say the signs were very good. He is very close already to being wingback material for the 1st team. Fullback needs a bit more.

Would I like to see him against us, in the Premier League, flying down the wing on the end of a pass out wide with Zabaleta trying to get over there and cover him ? Fucking NO ! Not at all tbh !

I agree, his crossing and all round delivery into the box is already top class material.

Bony would love to play with him.

 

[CityFan94]

What a load of bollocks at this stage.

Yes Angelino will have to be physically stronger & none of us know yet whether he will become that. But judging on how much stronger he is now than he was in August, I'd say the signs were very good. He is very close already to being wingback material for the 1st team. Fullback needs a bit more.

Would I like to see him against us, in the Premier League, flying down the wing on the end of a pass out wide with Zabaleta trying to get over there and cover him ? Fucking NO ! Not at all tbh !

This is key.

I totally agree, Angelino would be a real danger to come up against.

Really hope he gets an opportunity in 2015, I have a funny feeling he'll grasp it with both hands.

 

[.A.]

Not got much hope for him as a leftback but definitely has great potential as an orthodox left winger, especially if Pellegrini and his 4-4-2 stays next season.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

Not got much hope for him as a leftback but definitely has great potential as an orthodox left winger, especially if Pellegrini and his 4-4-2 stays next season.

Full back for me or maybe wing back if he can learn that role but not an out and out winger.

 

[SuperBlu]

Not got much hope for him as a leftback but definitely has great potential as an orthodox left winger, especially if Pellegrini and his 4-4-2 stays next season.

Full back for me or maybe wing back if he can learn that role but not an out and out winger.

Whats the difference between full back and wing back ?

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

Not got much hope for him as a leftback but definitely has great potential as an orthodox left winger, especially if Pellegrini and his 4-4-2 stays next season.

Full back for me or maybe wing back if he can learn that role but not an out and out winger.

Whats the difference between full back and wing back ?

Big difference in the defensive duties. When I have seen Angelino play as a wing back I felt he found it difficult to get his positioning right and tended to be too far forward pretty well all the time. It is a learning thing and for the team as much as the individual but I do think all his best attacking work is done with a winger in front of him who he can work with and go past. He has shown how well that can work with Barker this season.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think he could learn how to play wide mid as well as wingback. Not a winger as such, but a player who we use when we need to be very solid defensively but who would still be able to put in crosses, diagonals & also get forward & shoot/score/assist.

I think he could he a very useful player in a variety of positions, including fullback. The key is not to play him at fullback in games which his weaknesses will likely be exploited. Play to his strengths & position him where he becomes a problem to the oppo rather than a weak link defensively.

 

[Yates]

I think he could learn how to play wide mid as well as wingback. Not a winger as such, but a player who we use when we need to be very solid defensively but who would still be able to put in crosses, diagonals & also get forward & shoot/score/assist.

I think he could he a very useful player in a variety of positions, including fullback. The key is not to play him at fullback in games which his weaknesses will likely be exploited. Play to his strengths & position him where he becomes a problem to the oppo rather than a weak link defensively.

A Juan Bernat type role?

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think he could learn how to play wide mid as well as wingback. Not a winger as such, but a player who we use when we need to be very solid defensively but who would still be able to put in crosses, diagonals & also get forward & shoot/score/assist.

I think he could he a very useful player in a variety of positions, including fullback. The key is not to play him at fullback in games which his weaknesses will likely be exploited. Play to his strengths & position him where he becomes a problem to the oppo rather than a weak link defensively.

A Juan Bernat type role?

The way Bayern use theirs is a good example I think. Angelino is just a little kid but he is already a really good footballer & clever as well as hard working. As he gets older, I don't think there is much stuff you couldn't ask him to do & get a decent game out of him.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Not got much hope for him as a leftback but definitely has great potential as an orthodox left winger, especially if Pellegrini and his 4-4-2 stays next season.

Full back for me or maybe wing back if he can learn that role but not an out and out winger.

Whats the difference between full back and wing back ?

I think he means playing left side without a winger in front and with additional cover behind (but not a LB).

The gist of all this is that people don’t think he is a strong enough defender to play as a traditional left back. I would suggest he needs to stay with EDS until he looks more convincing as a LB or looks good enough on the ball and going forward to become a left sided midfielder, then once we know what he is suited to he should go on loan to test that out. Our first team is not the place for experimentation.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Full back for me or maybe wing back if he can learn that role but not an out and out winger.

Whats the difference between full back and wing back ?

I think he means playing left side without a winger in front and with additional cover behind (but not a LB).

The gist of all this is that people don’t think he is a strong enough defender to play as a traditional left back. I would suggest he needs to stay with EDS until he looks more convincing as a LB or looks good enough on the ball and going forward to become a left sided midfielder, then once we know what he is suited to he should go on loan to test that out. Our first team is not the place for experimentation.

Wingback is usually when there are 3 central defenders, so the fullbacks are not quite full on defenders & are positioned more like wide mids who drop back when needed but have a duty of getting forward. Somewhere between a winger & a fullback.

No guarantee he will get games if he goes on loan. At some point City will have to show some balls & start using sone of these kids off the bench.

We would have done, no problem, years ago even when things were tough.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

Whats the difference between full back and wing back ?

I think he means playing left side without a winger in front and with additional cover behind (but not a LB).

The gist of all this is that people don’t think he is a strong enough defender to play as a traditional left back. I would suggest he needs to stay with EDS until he looks more convincing as a LB or looks good enough on the ball and going forward to become a left sided midfielder, then once we know what he is suited to he should go on loan to test that out. Our first team is not the place for experimentation.

Wingback is usually when there are 3 central defenders, so the fullbacks are not quite full on defenders & are positioned more like wide mids who drop back when needed but have a duty of getting forward. Somewhere between a winger & a fullback.

No guarantee he will get games if he goes on loan. At some point City will have to show some balls & start using sone of these kids off the bench.

We would have done, no problem, years ago even when things were tough.

Watching Barcalona last night I could not help but see similarities between Angelino and Jordi Alba. Both full of energy but 2 moments stood out. One where he was muscled off the ball by Muller who crossed for Lewandowski to miss a great chance and shortly after I think where he was up attacking and volleyed a cross hard across the box .

It could have been Angelino

 

[twosips]

I've always thought he's incredibly like Alba too. I guess the potential 'solution' comes in having left-backs with varying abilities. Horses for courses. A 'solid' one and an attacking one - I've no doubt he has the potential ability to be the attacking one for a team like City.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

I've always thought he's incredibly like Alba too. I guess the potential 'solution' comes in having left-backs with varying abilities. Horses for courses. A 'solid' one and an attacking one - I've no doubt he has the potential ability to be the attacking one for a team like City.

I know what you mean but you can't really pick and choose and try to only play him when there isn't a defensive worry. maybe that's what we have been doing with Kolarov and Clichy but it has to be better to have a regular player in the role whatever his strengths and weaknesses if he is the best available.

Alba isn't a bad full back defensively but power/strength and height is bound to catch him out from time to time.

 

[twosips]

I've always thought he's incredibly like Alba too. I guess the potential 'solution' comes in having left-backs with varying abilities. Horses for courses. A 'solid' one and an attacking one - I've no doubt he has the potential ability to be the attacking one for a team like City.

I know what you mean but you can't really pick and choose and try to only play him when there isn't a defensive worry. maybe that's what we have been doing with Kolarov and Clichy but it has to be better to have a regular player in the role whatever his strengths and weaknesses if he is the best available.

Alba isn't a bad full back defensively but power/strength and height is bound to catch him out from time to time.

Sure, but I see no reason why Angelino can't be as 'good' as Alba defensively given experience. I don't think he's terrible, just naive.

There will be never no defensive worry, I agree, but there will be times where his good far outweighs his bad and I think in this modern day you're incredibly unlikely to find a fullback thats great at both. Perhaps I'm wrong, just trying to be relatively pragmatic about it. In an attacking team who dominates most of the ball I'd always rather have a fullback who gets forward better than one who defends really well, as I think naturally we're more likely to score than concede.

I agree with the old cliche about attack being the best form of defence. But thats a different discussion altogether ha.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

I've always thought he's incredibly like Alba too. I guess the potential 'solution' comes in having left-backs with varying abilities. Horses for courses. A 'solid' one and an attacking one - I've no doubt he has the potential ability to be the attacking one for a team like City.

I know what you mean but you can't really pick and choose and try to only play him when there isn't a defensive worry. maybe that's what we have been doing with Kolarov and Clichy but it has to be better to have a regular player in the role whatever his strengths and weaknesses if he is the best available.

Alba isn't a bad full back defensively but power/strength and height is bound to catch him out from time to time.

Sure, but I see no reason why Angelino can't be as 'good' as Alba defensively given experience. I don't think he's terrible, just naive.

There will be never no defensive worry, I agree, but there will be times where his good far outweighs his bad and I think in this modern day you're incredibly unlikely to find a fullback thats great at both. Perhaps I'm wrong, just trying to be relatively pragmatic about it. In an attacking team who dominates most of the ball I'd always rather have a fullback who gets forward better than one who defends really well, as I think naturally we're more likely to score than concede.

I agree with the old cliche about attack being the best form of defence. But thats a different discussion altogether ha.

Agree totally....well almost because maybe we have that rare animal coming through the ranks already. A full back that's great at both I give you Pablo Maffeo.

 

[aguero93:20]

I know what you mean but you can't really pick and choose and try to only play him when there isn't a defensive worry. maybe that's what we have been doing with Kolarov and Clichy but it has to be better to have a regular player in the role whatever his strengths and weaknesses if he is the best available.

Alba isn't a bad full back defensively but power/strength and height is bound to catch him out from time to time.

Sure, but I see no reason why Angelino can't be as 'good' as Alba defensively given experience. I don't think he's terrible, just naive.

There will be never no defensive worry, I agree, but there will be times where his good far outweighs his bad and I think in this modern day you're incredibly unlikely to find a fullback thats great at both. Perhaps I'm wrong, just trying to be relatively pragmatic about it. In an attacking team who dominates most of the ball I'd always rather have a fullback who gets forward better than one who defends really well, as I think naturally we're more likely to score than concede.

I agree with the old cliche about attack being the best form of defence. But thats a different discussion altogether ha.

Agree totally....well almost because maybe we have that rare animal coming through the ranks already. A full back that's great at both I give you Pablo Maffeo.

It's simple really. Right Back? Check. First Name Pablo? Check. Sign him up.

 

[twosips]

Bloody love Maffeo. That's all I have to say about it.