Angelino

itisrising said:
It's literally his value though. Can you give examples of top teams selling assets for half their market values? Truth is, we're so bad in sales it borders on negligence. Harrison with an option to buy at 10m, Pedro Porro with an option to buy at 9m (less than we purchased him for and now voted Liga NOS defender of the month for 3 months straight) are two other examples. We need to stop deluding ourselves that we're genuinely trying to maximise sales; you don't insert options to buy on assets which can improve if that's the case.
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It's criminal how bad we are at selling players. We can't even use the excuse that they aren't that good/wages are too high.

Angelino, Porro, Harrsion are all players that would have plenty of suitors. We'd be challenging the dippers for their net spend trophy if we could shift our quality loanees/youngsters for the same amounts that the dippers sell dross like Brewster, Solanke and Ibe for.

As for the pandemic excuse, we didn't do any better when teams were throwing silly money.
 
itisrising said:
It's literally his value though. Can you give examples of top teams selling assets for half their market values? Truth is, we're so bad in sales it borders on negligence. Harrison with an option to buy at 10m, Pedro Porro with an option to buy at 9m (less than we purchased him for and now voted Liga NOS defender of the month for 3 months straight) are two other examples. We need to stop deluding ourselves that we're genuinely trying to maximise sales; you don't insert options to buy on assets which can improve if that's the case.
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His "value" is what someone is prepared to pay for him, not what Transfermarkt say it is. We've got an agreement with Leipzig, which has now been triggered so that's what we get. The only reason he's been valued at €30m is because he's been playing regularly at the top level in Germany. No way he's worth that in our EDS squad.
 
BlueCityfan said:
It's criminal how bad we are at selling players. We can't even use the excuse that they aren't that good/wages are too high.

Angelino, Porro, Harrsion are all players that would have plenty of suitors. We'd be challenging the dippers for their net spend trophy if we could shift our quality loanees/youngsters for the same amounts that the dippers sell dross like Brewster, Solanke and Ibe for.

As for the pandemic excuse, we didn't do any better when teams were throwing silly money.
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If they'd had so many suitors why exactly didn't they bid? Do you really think we turned down a better offer just for shits and giggles?
 
Perhaps we sold him and others a bit cheap but it’s not like we are turning down bids then there is the corona issue

Plus it seems a bit unfair to have a go at Tixi for selling cheap when he is doing better than most in that he is getting players in either for value Dias or cheap Angelino on buy back and also finding great players for the academy and good players for CFG for purely selling Mooy and good players for CFG in general
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
His "value" is what someone is prepared to pay for him, not what Transfermarkt say it is. We've got an agreement with Leipzig, which has now been triggered so that's what we get. The only reason he's been valued at €30m is because he's been playing regularly at the top level in Germany. No way he's worth that in our EDS squad.
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Of course but the issue is we cap ourselves by consistently including options to buy on loan deals. What benefit, in hindsight, was it putting an option to buy on Harrison's deal to Leeds? Serves us no benefit and caps our potential income. Same for Porro. Why did we insist on a buyback at 35m on Angelino instead of a sizable sell on clause when, in reality, there's little to no chance he would return again? There's little economic justification for the decisions made recently.
 
itisrising said:
Of course but the issue is we cap ourselves by consistently including options to buy on loan deals. What benefit, in hindsight, was it putting an option to buy on Harrison's deal to Leeds? Serves us no benefit and caps our potential income. Same for Porro. Why did we insist on a buyback at 35m on Angelino instead of a sizable sell on clause when, in reality, there's little to no chance he would return again? There's little economic justification for the decisions made recently.
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We don't know what the economics are. But I do know that the board see investment in the Academy in financial terms and they look to get a financial return on that investment. So the likelihood is that the fees are factored in and that they meet certain investment criteria.

It's also better to be 100% certain of £18m than be 50% hopeful of £30m.
 
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