Animal rebellion

For the last four years of my career I had to teach Environmental Ethics.

This was not an area of ethics that used to inspire me. But I always do a lot of additional reading for any topic as stumbling across an additional idea or perspective that is not in any of the A level textbooks can advantage students if it finds its way into their examination answering. Time and again, I have seen the evidence that they get additional credit and sometimes higher grades, as you can get their scripts back from the board.

Had a very bright student who was involved with ER from the outset. In one of her essays she took Roger Scruton apart, specifically his book Green Philosophy. I even thought of trying to get this piece of work published as an article in Philosophy Now magazine.

Unsurprisingly, she ended up at Oxford. But this was well before the time when ER started to glue themselves to things, prevent people from getting to see their dying relatives in a hospital, pouring shit over statues and so on, all the things that are alienating people from their cause.

I would be amazed if she had remained as an activist. The only reason that I am mentioning her is to correct the impression that all those who are concerned about climate change are militantly stupid.

As a result of all that reading, I have also come to the conclusion the - after the Ukraine-Russia conflict - climate change is the biggest problem facing humanity. Again that doesn't mean that I sympathise with ER. In fact, this thread is all about how counter-productive their methods are proving to be in terms of getting people onside with this.

It's a shame, as going back several years, there were protesters who went about things differently. Unfortunately, Cheat Neutral no longer exists. But they found an amusing, non-confrontational way to get across their objections to Emissions Trading.



As far as animal rights are concerned, well I am still a carnivore. But also almost certainly a moral hypocrite. You end up like that after you read Peter Singer.

Singer is especially famous for championing the cause of animal rights and the claim that we are speciesists in our treatment of animals. Speciesism for Singer happens when we allow the frequently trivial preferences of our own species to override the more weighty preferences of another species.

For example, when shopping for food, most of us would prefer to buy cheap food that tastes good. But if that food is an animal product, in making our purchase we have not taken into account the preference an animal may have for not suffering when they are alive (as often happens as a result of intensive farming) and dying prematurely.

For Jeremy Bentham (a pre-Victorian thinker who was one of the first Western philosophers to suggest that animals were morally significant significance, as he put it, “The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but "Can they suffer?”

Singer is very much a part of the tradition of utilitarianism and agrees with Bentham’s view. He also introduces the notion of personhood into his version of utilitarianism. For Singer, a person is a being that can value its own existence and knows that it has a future. He argues that many animals are persons in this sense, and research into animal awareness suggests that he is right. For example, chimpanzees have been taught ASL (American Sign Language) and have exhibited linguistic skills that approximate to those of a human child of around two years of age.

Singer is controversial for several reasons:
  1. He regards speciesism as being as immoral as racism. For example, in old American south, a white slave owner’s preference for profit and cheap labour were allowed to override the preference of black slaves to be free. For Singer, this example is morally equivalent to the example of the food shopper given above.
  2. He considers unborn foetuses and young babies to lack personhood, which makes abortion and even infanticide morally acceptable for him in some cases. He has even suggested that it may therefore be preferable to carry out medical experiments on orphaned human infants rather than animals because infants are less aware than many species of animals and do not acquire a sense of being a person until they are older.
  3. Personhood is also something that can be lost (as when someone becomes ‘brain dead’ following a serious accident). This makes euthanasia morally acceptable for Singer.
Anyway, I think I have probably typed enough by now to give readers of this post something to think about.

So will finish with a picture of another lot that got things a bit wrong.

2448220

Great pic
 
Like when they freed a load of mink from a farm. What a victory that was....... except for the wildlife in the area that now get killed by the mink who, having no natural predators in the uk, are doing really well.
Thick fucks.

When did the animal activists first release them?

They've been sighted and reported as breeding in the wild as far back as 1956 and now number over 100K so seems unlikely that it was animal activists that are chiefly responsible rather than the farmers or owners themselves.
 
I was a hunt sabatour back in the day and antivivisection for a while but their tactics were not for me, the later that is

We could make small steps like making sure that when people are caught being cruel to animals that they are punished properly.
 
For the last four years of my career I had to teach Environmental Ethics.

This was not an area of ethics that used to inspire me. But I always do a lot of additional reading for any topic, as stumbling across an additional idea or perspective that is not in any of the A level textbooks can advantage students if it finds its way into their examination answering. Time and again, I have seen the evidence that they get additional credit and sometimes higher grades, as you can get their scripts back from the board.

Had a very bright student who was involved with ER from the outset. In one of her essays she took Roger Scruton apart, specifically his book Green Philosophy. I even thought of trying to get this piece of work published as an article in Philosophy Now magazine.

Unsurprisingly, she ended up at Oxford. But this was well before the time when ER started to glue themselves to things, prevent people from getting to see their dying relatives in a hospital, pouring shit over statues and so on, all the things that are alienating people from their cause.

I would be amazed if she had remained as an activist. The only reason that I am mentioning her is to correct the impression that all those who are concerned about climate change are militantly stupid.

As a result of all that reading, I have also come to the conclusion that - after the Ukraine-Russia conflict - climate change is the biggest problem facing humanity. Again that doesn't mean that I sympathise with ER. In fact, this thread is all about how counter-productive their methods are proving to be in terms of getting people onside with their cause.

It's a shame though, as going back several years, there were protesters who went about things differently. Unfortunately, Cheat Neutral no longer exists. But they found an amusing, non-confrontational way to get across their objections to Emissions Trading.



As far as animal rights are concerned, well I am still a carnivore. But also almost certainly a moral hypocrite. You end up like that after you read Peter Singer.

Singer is especially famous for championing the cause of animal rights and the claim that we are speciesists in our treatment of animals. Speciesism for Singer happens when we allow the frequently trivial preferences of our own species to override the more weighty preferences of another species.

For example, when shopping for food, most of us would prefer to buy cheap food that tastes good. But if that food is an animal product, in making our purchase we have not taken into account the preference an animal may have for not suffering when they are alive (as often happens as a result of intensive farming) and dying prematurely.

For Jeremy Bentham (a pre-Victorian thinker who was one of the first Western philosophers to suggest that animals were morally significant significance, as he put it, “The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but "Can they suffer?”

Singer is very much a part of the tradition of utilitarianism and agrees with Bentham’s view. He also introduces the notion of personhood into his version of utilitarianism. For Singer, a person is a being that can value its own existence and knows that it has a future. He argues that many animals are persons in this sense, and research into animal awareness suggests that he is right. For example, chimpanzees have been taught ASL (American Sign Language) and have exhibited linguistic skills that approximate to those of a human child of around two years of age.

Singer is controversial for several reasons:
  1. He regards speciesism as being as immoral as racism. For example, in old American south, a white slave owner’s preference for profit and cheap labour were allowed to override the preference of black slaves to be free. For Singer, this example is morally equivalent to the example of the food shopper given above.
  2. He considers unborn foetuses and young babies to lack personhood, which makes abortion and even infanticide morally acceptable for him in some cases. He has even suggested that it may therefore be preferable to carry out medical experiments on orphaned human infants rather than animals because infants are less aware than many species of animals and do not acquire a sense of being a person until they are older.
  3. Personhood is also something that can be lost (as when someone becomes ‘brain dead’ following a serious accident). This makes euthanasia morally acceptable for Singer.
Anyway, I think I have probably typed enough by now to give readers of this post something to think about.

So will finish with a picture of another lot that got things a bit wrong.

2448220

Well this is a great post and probably one that not many will read or understand. Most people take the approach of I am OK as long as life goes on as it has been. Perhaps in our lifetime we will be OK. You mention many contentious issues that are very polarising, but right to do so. The sad thing is that not only politicians, the media, social media, have become a place where a vocal minority control the agenda, and we all now kowtow to these individuals when the vast majority want to improve the world, and are totally scared of commenting. You can go to a pub, have a chat at home and trust me the conversations are different to those you see on social media. Orwell got it right in 1984. Suppressing the majority view for fear of retribution is fascism and every day read the papers and you see evidence of this.
 

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