BobKowalski
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Damn that was harsh :)
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Damn that was harsh :)
mancity2012_eamo
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Shit. What have we done now?The Brexit bongs are symbolically important. Plus it gives an opportunity for some ‘remainer’ bashing. Brexit thrives on grievance and victimhood. Whining about Remainers/EU/Scots/Irish etc is going to be a major theme in the media for the next few years.
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Shit. What have we done now?
Be Irish?
west didsblue
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Had to look that up:-)Sure...gas craic!
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The whole brexit bong thing is ridiculous. It has served just to troll the leave / remain extremists into new outbursts of triumphalism / outrage. Basically a waste of time.
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The whole brexit bong thing is ridiculous. It has served just to troll the leave / remain extremists into new outbursts of triumphalism / outrage. Basically a waste of time.
Exactly, will do nothing but drive people further apart.
mancity2012_eamo
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An excellent Irish phrase and "Craic" has to be one of the greatest foreign language imports into the English vocabulary.Had to look that up:-)
Certainly the best Gaelic word.
I feel a new OT thread coming on.
The whole brexit bong thing is ridiculous. It has served just to troll the leave / remain extremists into new outbursts of triumphalism / outrage. Basically a waste of time.
It’s exactly why I’ve stated I don’t give a shit.
It’s just as irrelevant as Guy Verhofstadt saying the UK will rejoin the EU, today.
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It’s exactly why I’ve stated I don’t give a shit.
It’s just as irrelevant as Guy Verhofstadt saying the UK will rejoin the EU, today.
I read his comments and I can't understand why the 'young' generation would take us back into the EU, so patronising.
Much of the generation that just voted to leave the EU are mostly the same generation that voted to join the EC.
People change their opinions, that's why many young people turn Tory by the time they are 40.
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Maybe we will one day. I suspect that once we have left the EU will have some tough times then either disintegrate or emerge reformed and better.It’s exactly why I’ve stated I don’t give a shit.
It’s just as irrelevant as Guy Verhofstadt saying the UK will rejoin the EU, today.
I read his comments and I can't understand why the 'young' generation would take us back into the EU, so patronising.
Much of the generation that just voted to leave the EU are mostly the same generation that voted to join the EC.
People change their opinions, that's why many young people turn Tory by the time they are 40.
It really depends on A) how bad it is outside and B) the terms in which we can rejoin.
I can’t see it for a long time. It certainly won’t be put forward by the Tories and the way Labour are going, I can’t see them being given the opportunity to decide on a rejoin ref.
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In fairness to the 'gammon' they are the ones who truly can claim to be in a position to compare in vs out.I read his comments and I can't understand why the 'young' generation would take us back into the EU, so patronising.
Much of the generation that just voted to leave the EU are mostly the same generation that voted to join the EC.
People change their opinions, that's why many young people turn Tory by the time they are 40.
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My experience of the "young" generation? They don't give two shits about things like "federal Europe" or "a unified EU". And the generation after them will be growing up in a UK that is no longer part of the EU/EEC following a wartime regeneration period. There's no sense of dependency or urgency like there once was.Maybe we will one day. I suspect that once we have left the EU will have some tough times then either disintegrate or emerge reformed and better.
The 'Younger' Generations simply don't care about or have as deeply run passions as the millennial+ generations do about Europe. If we do go back in to the EU, I find that it'll be because of the older millennials, not Gen Z and younger, so Verhofstadt is pretty clueless about this issue here. The love of the EU project was a generational thing, and these younger generations either don't care or won't have been exposed to it.
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That's not really true. When we joined EEC in the 70s, it was a tiny organization in scope. Since then, as it has developed into an incipient European superstate, we have always been inside it. So comparison is not really available.In fairness to the 'gammon' they are the ones who truly can claim to be in a position to compare in vs out.
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It was more the gas that I needed to look up.An excellent Irish phrase and "Craic" has to be one of the greatest foreign language imports into the English vocabulary.
Certainly the best Gaelic word.
I feel a new OT thread coming on.
mancity2012_eamo
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Really?It was more the gas that I needed to look up.
That’s gas.
Chris in London
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Really?
That’s gas.
I think you’ll find it’s a gas gas gas.
Even if the figures did suggest that many wanted to remain, you still can't dispute that we are predominately a eurosceptic country.
I voted remain purely because I didn't think we'd do as well, I'd leave though if we could avoid any pain and the trend obviously will be that at least 'some' remainers would too.
The 48% that voted remain aren't all out marching on the streets for remain I can tell you that. If they were and that figure outweighed the 52% then we'd be remaining but we aren't. Leave has won every single decisive election on the matter since the 2015 GE.
The rest of remainers couldn't care less because it's happening and we all need to move on. What is left is isolationist Lib Dems and Labour Twitter warriors, the kind who spouted about a Labour victory last month which quickly turned into ash.
It's gone and the sooner we all accept that it is happening, the sooner we can start arguing instead for what's best for the country afterwards.
That would be to rejoin (perhaps in that special zone that mcfc1632 "researched").
Perhaps you could think again about "sooner the better". But plenty on here gave us permission to start a rejoin campaign once we'd left. Let's get it done.
What is this obsession some of you have with taking back 'control' and aversion to foreigners? We are only leaving the political construct of the EU, not leaving Europe or declaring war on our European friends.
Were you really intending to repeat your misunderstanding of earlier this week?
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