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I think you'd find if you actually looked into it that we had significant influence in every area of EU policy and it worked very well for us. Now we have none and will have to do as we're told if we want to carry on as we were like we both think will happen.
Trading bloc - yes please.
Federal state - no thank you.
If we can't have one without the other, the that says it all really and regretfully we may have to settle for neither. That's it for me and I suspect many others. Jobs, immigration, money on the side of a bus, and the rest of the hysteria are just distractions from that basic issue. I suppose we could argue about this all day, but there is now no point as it is already settled and we are out on Friday. About time.
 
Trading bloc - yes please.
Federal state - no thank you.
If we can't have one without the other, the that says it all really and regretfully we may have to settle for neither. That's it for me and I suspect many others. Jobs, immigration, money on the side of a bus, and the rest of the hysteria are just distractions from that basic issue. I suppose we could argue about this all day, but there is now no point as it is already settled and we are out on Friday. About time.
It's just your opinion that we would have been part of federal state. As it stands and if the government are lying like we both think they are, we will simply end up being a rule taker from that entity whatever it ends up being. If you're happy with that, fine, but there's no need to pretend that we'll have some new found independence and sovereignty.
 
I find it impossible to believe that anyone would argue the EU wasn't on the road to being a united superstate when it has its own parliament, anthem, defence policies etc etc.

Its a trading bloc!

Had it focused on that my guess is remain would have wont by an absolute landslide if we had even demanded we be asked yet it couldn't, it had to go along with the dreams of the federalist ruling elite that controls its halls of power.
 
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