Another new Brexit thread

[blueinsa]

As yet I’ve yet to meet any Spanish retirees with £30 grand pa incomes in Blackpool, or anywhere in Britain, but if some are considering decamping, I don’t think they’re going to be denied hospital treatment post 1 Jan.

Me neither mate on both counts.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

It might well be that the various nightmare scenarios that have been mooted may well not come to pass, I think we all hope not. Even if they don't though, the way this government is approaching the trade negotiations and, let's face it, everything else since June 2016 will have the effect of making everyones life a little more difficult. There is literally nothing, in terms of our relationship with mainland Europe, that will not be made harder to accomplish in 2021 that it has been for the previous 35.
I appreciate that for some any price is worth paying and no cost is too high for that feeling of living (some of the time) in a free sovereign state but for the rest, those that were just a bit fed up of what they perceived to be unnecessary interventions in the way they lived their lives, how long will it take before the filling in all those extra forms or the kenneling the dog instead of taking it on holiday with them will force them to wonder whether they voted wisely in the referendum or in subsequent general elections?

They wont care cos the forriners will be gone .

 

[bluethrunthru]

They wont care cos the forriners will be gone .

except for the butchers, bakers and brickies etc that already they are bending the rules for to allow employers to recruit them from abroad because we don't train any of our own.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Good grief, this is hard work. I can't tell you because IT'S NOT CERTAIN.

Tell me what forecast I've made and we can assess fruition.

It certainly is hard work, so why are you asking me for certainty?
I must have said wait and see a hundred times, yet you insist on definite answers, in an attempt to confirm your opinions.
Once more, wait and see.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

why would a country be dumb enough to opt out of reciprocal free health care and deny its citizens living abroad banking? Does make you wonder eh?

If you can tell me exactly who has binned reciprocation this ridiculous merry go round may stop.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I haven't mentioned anything about trade, I specifically mentioned the amendments they've made to the bill between the commons and the lords that could have an impact on the GFA. I've been leave ever since the referendum, it has to get implemented. I will never support "by any means" though.

Of course the EU is the only player, who else would? Currently, the breach in international law is only the breach of that treaty, there literally is no other player impacted to take it to court. If the bill gets implemented, then it will have wider implications and will then more than likely have domestic legal challenges against it too.

The ECJ is a red herring, that's exactly what we signed up to as part of the WA. It can still go to arbitration post that too.

Again, this contains the ‘Could haves’ that are a feature of this discussion.
A detailed post from Mozzarelli lists numerous breaches from the EU, that appears to have been ignored, as it’s slightly embarrassing. Parliament can amend any treaty it deems against British interests, it has done exactly that.
The ECJ is now irrelevant to this country, it is a construct of an organisation we’re no longer a part of, this is simply EU posturing, let’s see if they attempt to go further.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

We do seem to be going out of our way to make our lives harder, not easier, aside from a very small part of the population...

An even smaller part lost this argument, but many of that minority won’t accept that fact, and have been championing the EU’s interests over ours.
Things are coming to a head now, all will be finalised very soon.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

They wont care cos the forriners will be gone .

I’ve never blocked, or ignored anyone on here in 11 years or so, and never will, but crass bullshit like this makes it tempting.

 

[hilts]

Organic and Natural Health and Beauty products.

Some of it is fucking expensive shite as well ;-)

edit. My apologies as well for the offensive remark.

You are Gerald Ratner and I claim My £5 prize

Plus a free avocado face mask


For the wife

 

[hilts]

I’m sat in mine, and I’ve got this hunch that I’ll be able to after the 1st of January.

I thought we were all going to be banned from visiting working or living in Europe, what gives?