Another new Brexit thread

[mcfc1632]

"If we crash out with no deal who will put the sugar on my cornflakes"?

"What happens to the tin of sardines in my cupboard overnight on the 31st December"?

"I was planning on spending New Years Day with my family....will this still be possible out of the EU"?

"I'm scared will someone please help"?

There is a new version of Project Fear being brought forward - but rather than orchestrated by the government it is undertaken by desperate reality deniers on internet forums

So now we have someone getting hold of a comment about some considerations that are being given to how to replace (at some point) the environmental payments and then try an make capital out of that - just childishness and ignorance.

Close to (your) home - the SG have just spent (lost) £ many millions on a programme of CAP reform and they have spent further money implementing capability and systems to manage the identification of land parcels as part of a revised approach to the accuracy of land management and payments to farmers. And, because it is the current work that it recognises the UK leaving the EU, replacement of CAP and the Single Application process (SAF).

There are all sorts of considerations being played into the thinking of Scotland's ARE (and they are working closely with DEFRA) with regards to rural land management, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, preventing, controlling and eradicating animal disease, forestry management etc. Yes - such considerations will inform future policy decisions - but there will be no significant change for many years to come (at least 4 - probably more like 6)

So who doesn't think that it is a good idea for the government departments (across the UK) to work with the various communities involved in rural and farming to plan the replacement of CAP - and not just some form of a UK 'son of CAP'

And some on here use some crumb from the internet and think that they can use it to be clever

They say that a little knowledge is dangerous - it can also be embarrassing

 

[journolud]

Sorry - yes deflection and pretty straightforward - comments about pre-referendum campaign claims have absolutely nothing to do with my posts.

My question and comments were highlighting the hypocrisy of those that are just desperate to pour scorn on all things Brexit that they have no awareness of how they demonstrate how inconsistent and confused they are.

Quite simple really - and if you collate what they say on various threads - they are repeatedly self-contradictory

And anyway - back on 'points' - you seem to be agreeing with me. You agree that there is doubts about the conclusion of a TA with the USA if Biden / Pelosi are making the decisions - and that seems to be nailed on.

I would say that those are not simply doubts - but grave doubts - in fact there is little chance of such an agreement between now and the next GE.

So - indeed - my question was very relevant - and it cut through the bollocks of those other posters (my question and comments were not aimed at you)

But anyway - I have no interest in silly stuff. I have raised my question and made my points - and explained the thinking behind them - so that will do for me.

So do you think we underestimated the importance of the GFA and the potential impact of the Irish border issue in our planning for a post Brexit world (I say we but obviously I mean the leave campaign although with some foresight the remain campaign might also have highlighted this potential big issue)

 

[mcfc1632]

Yep - very little chance of a UK/USA TA before the next UK GE if there is a Biden victory

 

[west didsblue]

Yep - very little chance of a UK/USA TA before the next UK GE if there is a Biden victory

Are you hoping for a Trump win?

 

[BobKowalski]

Nicola Sturgeon pitching to the EU the idea of a Scotland as a future northern edition to the bloc committed to upholding International Law and restating Scotland’s opposition to the IM bill.

Scotland will always uphold international law

The UK government is making the difficulties posed by the pandemic much worse.

www.politico.eu

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Two questions. Do they meet fda standards now, and if so what about their manufacture are we planning to change?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Nicola Sturgeon pitching to the EU the idea of a Scotland as a future northern edition to the bloc committed to upholding International Law and restating Scotland’s opposition to the IM bill.

Scotland will always uphold international law

The UK government is making the difficulties posed by the pandemic much worse.

www.politico.eu

A more honest title for this article would be 'lets stop talking about Alex Salmond'

 

[Len Rum]

"If we crash out with no deal who will put the sugar on my cornflakes"?
"What happens to the tin of sardines in my cupboard overnight on the 31st December"?
"I was planning on spending New Years Day with my family....will this still be possible out of the EU"?
"I'm scared will someone please help"?

Nurse!

 

[BobKowalski]

There is a new version of Project Fear being brought forward - but rather than orchestrated by the government it is undertaken by desperate reality deniers on internet forums

So now we have someone getting hold of a comment about some considerations that are being given to how to replace (at some point) the environmental payments and then try an make capital out of that - just childishness and ignorance.

Close to (your) home - the SG have just spent (lost) £ many millions on a programme of CAP reform and they have spent further money implementing capability and systems to manage the identification of land parcels as part of a revised approach to the accuracy of land management and payments to farmers. And, because it is the current work that it recognises the UK leaving the EU, replacement of CAP and the Single Application process (SAF).

There are all sorts of considerations being played into the thinking of Scotland's ARE (and they are working closely with DEFRA) with regards to rural land management, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, preventing, controlling and eradicating animal disease, forestry management etc. Yes - such considerations will inform future policy decisions - but there will be no significant change for many years to come (at least 4 - probably more like 6)

So who doesn't think that it is a good idea for the government departments (across the UK) to work with the various communities involved in rural and farming to plan the replacement of CAP - and not just some form of a UK 'son of CAP'

And some on here use some crumb from the internet and think that they can use it to be clever

They say that a little knowledge is dangerous - it can also be embarrassing

The amusing thing about project fear is the Govt publishing 138 pages of new regulatory and internal customs procedures, identifying over 30 sites for new lorry parks and customs infrastructure, introducing a border in Kent were hauliers cannot enter one of our own counties without correct paperwork and permits, proceeding with work on an internal customs border between countries in our own Union and the EU pressing to open an office in Belfast to ensure their customs rules and regs are being applied properly at NI ports.

If any of this had been posited as a potential outcome in the EU referendum, the hoots of derision from the Leave camp would have been epic and yet the above is just a taste of what will come to pass.

What is remarkable is the lack of comment from Brexiteers on the reality of what is happening right now. So, lets stick to what is actually happening rather than endlessly whining about posters on a football forum.

 

[journolud]

Yep - very little chance of a UK/USA TA before the next UK GE if there is a Biden victory

What do you think are the factors that make a TA unlikely in these circumstances? Do you think they could have been predicted and mitigated against? Do these potential barriers disappear in the event of a Trump win? Does a Trump win present different potential problems?