Another new Brexit thread

[adrianr]

Where you went wrong is you expected a resident leaver to contribute something to the discussion instead of just making a glib meaningless comment.

Food standards is going the exact same way as every other significant brexit issue - the way that brexiteers denied all along and still deny to this day even as they push through the legislation that enables it.

Yes, I see that now. Thought I was getting the hang of it too.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

But he adds humour to the thread so I’m reliably informed.

People from around the world must go online specially to see his hilarious quips about lorry parks and queues, and a particular favourite are his ones about chlorinated chicken.

Maybe you should report me for not agreeing with you and try to frame it as wumming? It's the sort of tragic last resort I'd expect when your sad June 2016 echo chamber is disturbed.

 

[west didsblue]

Maybe you should report me for not agreeing with you and try to frame it as wumming? It's the sort of tragic last resort I'd expect when your sad June 2016 echo chamber is disturbed.

Why would I report your contributions as wumming when it’s been made clear by your own little echo chamber that they’re humorous?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Why would I report your contributions as wumming when it’s been made clear by your own little echo chamber that they’re humorous?

Cheers, fair enough. As you were then.

 

[mcfc1632]

Just on my way out, but is this a first? Actually engaging with a real issue and not cloaking it with "I know something you don't but you must guess what it is". Pity you couldn't avoid the demeaning abuse.

You've certainly got me with "ARE". I know about ARD (Agriculture and Rural Development) and I don't want to guess.

I'd appreciate any link to the CAP reform programme, but a lot of the other stuff seems to be about environmental improvements that one would expect in a time of climate change regardless of Brexit and changing from CAP (and feeds to my question about would you as a farmer hang back from making such improvements now at your own expense or wait till the new scheme pays you for making them).

TBF - on this subject, given your initial post and, seemingly, your understanding of the SG structures being limited to basic Google searches, it would likely be more apt for me to say that:

"I know a lot more about this subject than you - but I have previously explained the reasons why I don't bother debating with you."

That would be because I have previously led a large Transformational PFI and outsourcing programme for Defra and have for the last few years (including recent weeks and will again next month) provided support to SG on their plans in these specific areas

 

[Zuriblue]

Have you ever visited Chingford?

To be fair their previous MP was Tebbit so they're no strangers to being represented by a ****.

 

[mcfc1632]

Ok. Second bite at this.

I think you mean the Scottish government has spent millions on refining the CAP scheme with better mapping and other stuff and it's "lost" only because of Brexit and the UK government decision to do something different to a "son of CAP".

You might not want to do how we got from maintaining farming subsidies during the referendum campaign to the "here and now" but when the vast majority of Scottish farmland is classed by the EU as "less favoured" so attracted extra help.

You can see what "The Scottish Farmer" thinks from this:
https://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/opinion/17443216.leave-campaigns-farming-promises-forgotten/
but it will be the Blue Slurry Lagoon Tory heartlands in England where the real damage will be for the Tories as they realise the priority is cheap imports (cheap, that is, until our domestic farm industry is wrecked and the importers can then put up their prices).

Of course, you may have had something entirely different in mind.

For the benefit of others - the entire content of your post is totally missing the mark/point/ even topic

The £many millions loss to SG has ZERO to do with Brexit and 100% to to do with EU membership and requirement for adherence to EU regulations/processes - and attempt to limit the impact of disallowance

Also the recent and current plans have nothing to do with Brexit - they were started before the referendum and continued following it - entirely driven by the need to adhere to EU regulations/processes

The future plans will actually only be impacted positively by Brexit having occurred (if it actually happens in a manner that clearly breaks the UK free of EU regulations/processes)

 

[bluethrunthru]

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careful - that could offend so many people - those who don't want their food genetically modified, those offended by the word gammon pig keepers and pigeon fanciers to name but a few.

 

[mcfc1632]

Where you went wrong is you expected a resident leaver to contribute something to the discussion instead of just making a glib meaningless comment.

Food standards is going the exact same way as every other significant brexit issue - the way that brexiteers denied all along and still deny to this day even as they push through the legislation that enables it.

This is all very inconsistent with other statements made by Remainers, including yourself.

Can you please explain why you are so insistent that a Labour government would act to lower food standards please - because that you think they would is the only way there is any consistency in the comments others and yourself make

 

[west didsblue]

Who's going to tell him we have a Tory government with an 80 seat majority?