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Summerbuzz said:
Politics in the UK has always been a game of 'who is the least bad option'. This weeks bully boy antics make it abunduntly clear to me that, whatever reservations I had against Corbyn, he is now the lesser of two evils.
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Unfortunately that's how I feel & it's not a good feeling, as I see him as pretty much unelectable but the other lot are actually an army of unelectables.

I'm hoping I don't have to vote for either but if it becomes necessary I will actually vote Labour now.
 
hilts said:
Seriously why?
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I think the current right wing of the tory party is running the show & is the most extreme, dangerous & unethical bunch of cunts ever to be in power, since I was old enough to understand anything & I think Farage & his mob will join in with them.

I think they only want to leave the EU, in order to be unfettered cunts & get back to the 'values' of their past icons such as Enoch Powell, who was the originator of the anti EU movement.

They are also totally fucking incompetent & stupid.

Unfortunately, Corbyn's mob will probably be the 2nd worst & equally incompetent
 
bluethrunthru said:
Bring it on...................JRM accused of lying ( not down )

https://news.sky.com/story/chief-me...brands-jacob-rees-mogg-disrespectful-11802903
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Mr Rees-Mogg compared Dr David Nicholl, a consultant neurologist, to Andrew Wakefield, who started a bogus scare about the MMR vaccine and was subsequently struck off the medical register.
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Rees-Mogg is a disgusting **** and the epitome of a certain section of the Tory elite who view industry experts as an inconvenience. He has absolutely no respect for someone working in the NHS, as again it’s an inconvenience that should be sold to the highest bidder. They want uncontrolled neoliberalism and they will use it to exploit and make further profit, despite being the most wealthy already. They look down on the lower classes as lesser individuals and anyone who gets in their way must be crushed.

This man he’s disgracing in Parliament for no reason was hired by the government to work on no deal risks and he has aired his findings, nothing more.

We must fight these fuckers at every opportunity.
 
Seems to me as B-Day draws nearer bodies that were keen t stay out of politics but were prepared to issue warning are going to issue warnings that are more and more damning as the Govt refuse to release Operation Yellowhammer details. Simple fact is they may as well abandon impartiality and release what they know so that when the shit really hits the fan they can point to Govt lies and the fact that they at least warned us.
There is no body ( including Boris Johnson's government ) who can show the outcome of Brexit - let alone a No Deal - will be better than what we have now. The govt and Leave have created the myth we will be ok as of day one - personally I am ok with that because I want Leavers to own the mess they are about to drop on us.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Back to opinions / arseholes and all that. You both seem decent blokes and I'm happy to accept your opinions ( and arseholes) are different from my own.
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I believe that poring a boiling kettle of water over my head will hurt, I believe that leaving the EU without a deal will be worse (from all aspects) than remaining or leaving with a deal. You are entitled to different opinions of course.
 
I understand that at the moment Brexit is everything for some people but I think in the case of a GE a lot of people will vote for domestic policies. I don't believe leave or remain will decide the result as much as people think. I genuinely think a huge part of the Ref result was a backlash by people who felt left behind and saw politicians telling them everything was great in the EU but they weren't seeing any benefit for them, misguided maybe but for me understandable. There will obviously be people who believe very strongly in their vote to leave/remain but there is in my opinion a large section that would vote for what will help them day to day.
 
Ban-jani said:
Rees-Mogg is a disgusting **** and the epitome of a certain section of the Tory elite who view industry experts as an inconvenience. He has absolutely no respect for someone working in the NHS, as again it’s an inconvenience that should be sold to the highest bidder. They want uncontrolled neoliberalism and they will use it to exploit and make further profit, despite being the most wealthy already. They look down on the lower classes as lesser individuals and anyone who gets in their way must be crushed.

This man he’s disgracing in Parliament for no reason was hired by the government to work on no deal risks and he has aired his findings, nothing more.

We must fight these fuckers at every opportunity.
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He came up with the wrong answer.

Imagine giving Hitler news he didn't ask you to give him ?

Same thing.
 
BobKowalski said:
Seriously if we wanted to save Port Talbot through State Aid we could do. All you do is designate the area and communities at risk through closure and you're home and dry. It’s down to the Govt not the EU. All the Govt does is hide behind the EU so as not to cop the flak. Hell we bailed out the banks in ‘09 how do you think that got squared with State Aid rules? Collapse was deemed an unacceptable risk and the public money tap was turned to 11.

It’s about domestic policy. Always has been. The EU is just the handy scapegoat and we fall for it everytime.
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I was answering from a Port Talbot perspective
 
kalouk said:
I understand that at the moment Brexit is everything for some people but I think in the case of a GE a lot of people will vote for domestic policies. I don't believe leave or remain will decide the result as much as people think. I genuinely think a huge part of the Ref result was a backlash by people who felt left behind and saw politicians telling them everything was great in the EU but they weren't seeing any benefit for them, misguided maybe but for me understandable. There will obviously be people who believe very strongly in their vote to leave/remain but there is in my opinion a large section that would vote for what will help them day to day.
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If true, I'm wondering what sort of person votes for Boris Johnson & Reece Mogg & crew, if not purely for Brexit reasons.

Different question when they were just fouling the backbenches or discrediting a minesterial position, but now, they are in charge.
 
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