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BlueHammer85 said:
Can’t be healthy the amount of time he is posting on here, whatever points he is trying to make are all in vain anyway.
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I feel healthy enough - just taking the opportunity to get some autumn sunshine and, being 2 hours ahead with some time to kill, happy to do some missionary work

But thanks for your concern

You are right though about the effort being wasted on some on here
 
Neville Kneville said:
I thought you were arguing a while back, that the threat of 'no deal' had been destroyed by us 'remainers' & crying that we had undemocratically ruined everything for you & therefore you had the 'right' to be angry about it, as we wouldn't be leaving ?

Were you talking shit ?
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Try reading and applying some comprehension before spouting - it really is not that difficult to understand the words:

"The power of a No-deal option has been demonstrated in recent weeks on this thread - many times over."

But I have bolded some key words to help with your comprehension
 
George Hannah said:
Newsnight echo chamber for our continental friends and partners:
BoJo's "Singapore on Thames"
"he's Winston Churchill - he needs an enemy and it's the EU"
"their (UK) objective is to destroy our single market"
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The first two are fair and objective points.

The first has always in my opinion been the plan of the ERG, Johnson and the Faragists, they see leaving as the chance to finish the Thatcherite project of complete deregulation of the markets, erosion of workers rights and diminishment of the state . A right wing libertarian wank fest of individualism, small statism and total belief in the free hand of capitalist endeavour. They are zealots to the cause.

The second is a natural effect of the first, they need a hero and an enemy to make it sound like a fight so they can enable the first and have the people on their side. It is a con trick of epic proportions.

I don't believe the third is objective, but I am quite sure no tears would be shed as the EU as it stands is the enemy that stands in the way of their nutjobbery. The desperation to leave the ECJ indicates that.

After leaving it will be left to the two extreme's to fight it out for the utopian future, centrism will be dead and the choice will be the ERGs unfettered Capitalism or Corbyn's Social Democracy.

As a self proclaimed enemy of unfettered disaster Capitalism, I will be firmly in the Socialist camp, hoping for a better more internationalist society with an emphasis on society, the working class and the good of the many not the few.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
It may have aims to become federal... but if it trys to we have a veto until that point we could stay in and then if they want to go in a different direction we step away with their blessing and a really good deal



Its called 'STRATEGY' ... and a plan ... and negotiation .... not the dash into the abyss that we are currently headed for
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Bless - Unicorns are that way--------------------->
 
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mcfc1632 said:
Try reading and applying some comprehension before spouting - it really is not that difficult to understand the words:

"The power of a No-deal option has been demonstrated in recent weeks on this thread - many times over."

But I have bolded some key words to help with your comprehension
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I think I know what he means. But then I could be wrong. He'll never know.
 
mcfc1632 said:
To avoid a no deal outcome?

That should be their choice as it should be ours

For the UK a No Deal outcome would be far better than an unfettered backstop outcome

Ireland will have to make the same determination - I really doubt that they will decide that a no deal outcome is better for them
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Break the Good Friday Agreement and it will be No Deal .... everywhere

the USA
the Eu


We will be treated as the lepers of the Western world as the GFA is an international agreement ratified by the United Nations
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Break the Good Friday Agreement and it will be No Deal .... everywhere

the USA
the Eu


We will be treated as the lepers of the Western world as the GFA is an international agreement ratified by the United Nations
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Nancy Pelosi has already stated that US Congress will block any US/UK trade deal post Brexit, if we were to compromise the GFA in anyway.

You see mate, you’re quoting a man who doesn’t think it’s an issue when he really doesn’t know how bad it would be for the UK.

The sheer idiocy of it all is that they’re willing to trample on internationally agreed peace deals, bring on contempt from our neighbours and make NI an environment of hostility again, far greater than it is now, all in the name of Brexit... a thing that’s going to make us economically worse off for years to come.

It’s absolutely unbelievable really.
 
What options are there to solve the issue

1/ Ireland rejoins the UK

2/ A united Ireland

3/ Independence for Northern Ireland

4/ Remain

5/ Fuck it we are leaving anyway.

Any others?
 
Any questions tonight from Liam Fox's constituency.

Justice Secretary Robert Buckland, the leader of the Brexit Party Nigel Farage, the shadow Secretary of State for International Trade Barry Gardiner and the author Jeanette Winterson

That sounds like only Winterson to represent the majority of the population that now wants to remain.
 
Surely the well quoted 17.4 million who voted to leave had thought long and hard about the border question in Northern Ireland , I couldn’t possibly believe that people voted for something they knew fuck all about .
 
Rascal said:
What options are there to solve the issue

1/ Ireland rejoins the UK

2/ A united Ireland

3/ Independence for Northern Ireland

4/ Remain

5/ Fuck it we are leaving anyway.

Any others?
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UK joins the EFTA
 
Rascal said:
What options are there to solve the issue

1/ Ireland rejoins the UK

2/ A united Ireland

3/ Independence for Northern Ireland

4/ Remain

5/ Fuck it we are leaving anyway.

Any others?
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The EU finally grows up, stops speaking these stupid foreign languages and becomes part of the UK.
 
Rascal said:
What options are there to solve the issue

1/ Ireland rejoins the UK

2/ A united Ireland

3/ Independence for Northern Ireland

4/ Remain

5/ Fuck it we are leaving anyway.

Any others?
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We remain in the Single Market and Customs Union until an acceptable solution to both the UK and the Eu is found...... (and the ERG / Tories don't get their money)
 
Corbyn and his Communist union sponsors are not capable of leading the Labour Party anywhere near power via a GE. There are unfettered capitalists on each side of the channel but our lot are divided between those who want to embraced by the mighty USA and its cohorts and those whose financial interests lie principally with our continental friends and allies.
We're headed inexorably for a No Deal - BoJo/Farage Axis and the only hope of rescue is the announcement this morning that Rory Stewart has resigned from the Tory Party - watch this space!
 
Rascal said:
What options are there to solve the issue

1/ Ireland rejoins the UK

2/ A united Ireland

3/ Independence for Northern Ireland

4/ Remain

5/ Fuck it we are leaving anyway.

Any others?
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Withdrawal Agreement or another Customs Union arrangement as Labour are proposing.
 
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