Another new Brexit thread

[Bluemanc100]

Flip a coin.

Boris just stated that if the bill does not get the vote he will take it to a GE....

Corbyn fucked I'd say

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

What do you mean by reality?

This WA is being portrayed as a ‘deal’ when it is no such thing. The real risk (if you think no deal is a risk, obviously) comes when there is no FTA with the EU because of unrealistic demands (on either side) and the fabled WTO kicks in. Job done.

 

[blueinsa]

Boris just stated that if the bill does not get the vote he will take it to a GE....

Corbyn fucked I'd say

Its the threat that will see many Labour MP's backing the deal because they cant face Corbyn even having a chance of being PM.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Boris is playing them like cheap fiddles.

Shit or get off the pot time folks.

He’s just giving the exact same argument that May gave to him and his ERG mates and they told her to do one.

 

[blueparrot]

Boris is playing them like cheap fiddles.

Shit or get off the pot time folks.

Not really, if it gets stopped the extension will be required for an election sometime in December which means it needs to be longer than January, more likely a 9 month extension.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Its the threat that will see many Labour MP's backing the deal because they cant face Corbyn even having a chance of being PM.

Labour MPs to back a bill so they can have five years of a Johnson government? You do think laterally, I’ll give you that.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Corbyn setting his stall out... shit or bust for him

Brave Labour MP challenging him.. fair play to her

Corbyn's way or the highway... he's a cnut

 

[blueinsa]

Labour MPs to back a bill so they can have five years of a Johnson government? You do think laterally, I’ll give you that.

So why not have a GE when they could have had one?

You know the answer i suspect but if it suits you to deflect and question my thinking and logic on it then fair enough.

 

[mcfc1632]

Oh really. So Farage and his millions of leave followers seek to compromise do they ? That’s why they are so angry at Boris’s deal ?

You have that so badly wrong - did you read that back before posting?

 

[blueinsa]

Nandy telling her leader to basically shut the fuck up lol

 

[Bluemanc100]

Nandy telling her leader to basically shut the fuck up lol

He's still recommending (aka demanding) that his MPs vote against the deal

Let's see what happens

Quite a few of his own MPs arguing about whether he should reconsider backing the deal... he's too blinkered to agree

 

[blueparrot]

So why not have a GE when they could have had one?

You know the answer i suspect but if it suits you to deflect and question my thinking and logic on it then fair enough.

Because they wanted an extension locked in, you might not agree with the reasoning, but it's not difficult to understand the reasoning.

 

[blueinsa]

Another Labour MP stands up to tell her leader she will be voting for the deal to be debated tonight.

 

[mcfc1632]

Too late to prevent it whether this deal passes or not. I take it your negotiating stance will now be to spend billions to make it look like we could end transition with No Deal, in order to get a good deal. That doesn't sound like compromise, or putting an end to anything.

Read that twice - pretty muddled and hard to understand what is really meant - but I will have a try

Having had my views, expressed over 3 years, on the management of negotiations resoundingly proven right - I can understand you seeking more insights to how to manage the next phase.

Happy to provide you with that guidance - but the detail will depend on just how we finish this stage. When we get to that point I will be happy to give you some guidance.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Its the threat that will see many Labour MP's backing the deal because they cant face Corbyn even having a chance of being PM.

They have the chance now to be rid of him, but the whips have probably put the fear of deselection into them.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Nandy telling her leader to basically shut the fuck up lol

Fabricant telling Johnson that manufacturers in the W Midlands must be listened to and get on with the deal. The very same manufacturers who apparently peddled ‘project fear’ and have continually said that leaving the EU is the wrong course of action. Go figure.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Thinking Labour will get hammered in the elections if they vote this down.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Corbyn is full of shit... chief scaremonger

The Yanks are coming.... Lock up the NHS

 

[Coatigan]

It would indeed be the mother and father of all chuckles.
'As this independence vote was taken without all the necessary information, and people were not fully informed
when they voted, we will need to discuss this in parliament for 3 and a half years, or maybe more, in order to
go through all the fine detail, after all this was a 300 year union.'
After this, if, and it's a big if, parliament can't find a way to implement what is a flawed vote, it will be put back to
the people, if we can get a majority in the house to do so, but there have already been 2550 amendments tabled, so it will take time.'

Sure, other than the mechanics and detail were fully outlined in the 1000+ page white paper, that formed the template and timeframe for implementation of the choice. The people that wanted to, had the information of what they were voting on.

And if that turned out to not be likely, i for one would welcome being asked again, of course i would, im not mental.

Unlike brexit. Which, you could argue is not delayed in the slightest, as no timeframe was given.

 

[Vic]

Read that twice - pretty muddled and hard to understand what is really meant - but I will have a try

Having had my views, expressed over 3 years, on the management of negotiations resoundingly proven right - I can understand you seeking more insights to how to manage the next phase.

Happy to provide you with that guidance - but the detail will depend on just how we finish this stage. When we get to that point I will be happy to give you some guidance.

Well, doesn't that just sum up the whole argument about how daft the referendum was?

Vote Leave - and then I'll tell you how awful it will be.