Another new Brexit thread

[Kazzydeyna]

I rest my case.

Finally :)

(Just kidding)

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

 

[BobKowalski]

I quite enjoyed points 6 and 8

‘6. You've been able to grunt about "WTO rules" for the last five years, which got you this far, but come January, the fantasy is tested by reality - and with a dysfunctional customs administration, completely unprepared for the task, it'd be helpful if we could have some answers.

8. One could very easily conclude that the Tories simply haven't the first idea what they're doing, and haven't even begun to understand the dynamics or the complexity of trade. I've been watching closely for any sign of intelligent life but the trade minister is Liz Truss.’

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Unfortunately the 'headbangers' no deal was brought about by those that voted down Theresa May's deal - not sure they expected this particular set of consequences :-)

 

[west didsblue]

Unfortunately the 'headbangers' no deal was brought about that voted down Theresa May's deal - not sure they expected this particular set of consequences :-)

I was going to post that it won’t be long before the Brexiteers start to blame Remainers for this predicament but you surpassed my expectations and got in first.
It’s bullshit by the way.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I was going to post that it won’t be long before the Brexiteers start to blame Remainers for this predicament but you surpassed my expectations and got in first.
It’s bullshit by the way.

Never mentioned Remainers.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Unfortunately the 'headbangers' no deal was brought about that voted down Theresa May's deal - not sure they expected this particular set of consequences :-)

Aye, they had their chance but went balls out to scrap it altogether, and
then had to endure the horrifying reality that unfolded.
Ah well.

 

[west didsblue]

Never mentioned Remainers.

If it’s the ERG you’re talking about it’s exactly what they wanted. So who else could it be?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Aye, they had their chance but went balls out to scrap it altogether, and
then had to endure the horrifying reality that unfolded.
Ah well.

The breathtaking arrogance of those that chose to defy their own constituencies, and hypocrisy of those that resigned their party whip but wouldn’t subject themselves to democracy via a by-election was punished at the ballot box last December. They could have had a soft Brexit/brino with May but decided to go double or quits and lost - now it's everyone else's fault.

 

[west didsblue]

Aye, they had their chance but went balls out to scrap it altogether, and
then had to endure the horrifying reality that unfolded.
Ah well.

Seems you’re more than happy with the way things are going and that chaos will ensue next year.

 

[west didsblue]

The breathtaking arrogance of those that chose to defy their own constituencies, and hypocrisy of those that resigned their party whip but wouldn’t subject themselves to democracy via a by-election was punished at the ballot box last December. They could have had a soft Brexit/brino with May but decided to go double or quits and lost - now it's everyone else's fault.

So it is remainers then?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Seems you’re more than happy with the way things are going and that chaos will ensue next year.

If there is a 'Predicament' it can be rectified by the EU, simple.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

So it is remainers then?

Make your own mind up mate - I don't have the stats to hand on who repeatedly blocked May's deal. The ERG probably did too. All I'm saying is there was a chance for compromise, sensible brexit, soft Brexit or whatever you want to call it. It was voted down by those who wanted something else. If that something else was a hard/no deal then they voted the right way, or at least cleverly from a strategic point of view. Those voting it down to force a remain /revoke position shot themselves in the foot which is not clever.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

So it is remainers then?

Yes, although I'm glad they did what they did, as we now no
longer have May and that other bloke, who would have given you the
Brexit you now crave, but your side went for double or quits, and lost.

 

[west didsblue]

The breathtaking arrogance of those that chose to defy their own constituencies, and hypocrisy of those that resigned their party whip but wouldn’t subject themselves to democracy via a by-election was punished at the ballot box last December. They could have had a soft Brexit/brino with May but decided to go double or quits and lost - now it's everyone else's fault.

The breathtaking arrogance of some of those that voted for this shit in 2016 and are now blaming those that voted against it for the state we’re in is something to behold.

 

[Vic]

Unfortunately the 'headbangers' no deal was brought about by those that voted down Theresa May's deal - not sure they expected this particular set of consequences :-)

This is Leavers blaming Leavers. (Who is the Leave Alliance anyway? Obviously rabid nationalists and I'm not sure I want their help in making an argument which is obvious anyway.)

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The breathtaking arrogance of those that chose to defy their own constituencies, and hypocrisy of those that resigned their party whip but wouldn’t subject themselves to democracy via a by-election was punished at the ballot box last December. They could have had a soft Brexit/brino with May but decided to go double or quits and lost - now it's everyone else's fault.

So its remainers fault that headbangers won?

Nope - Brexit is entirely the fault of brexiteers. They pushed Brexit, then hard Brexit. You either support them and you own it or you accept they were and are wrong and should never have been supported in the first place.

 

[blueinsa]

So its remainers fault that headbangers won?

Nope - Brexit is entirely the fault of brexiteers. They pushed Brexit, then hard Brexit. You either support them and you own it or you accept they were and are wrong and should never have been supported in the first place.

Owned :-)

 

[Vic]

I'm still waiting for mcfc1632 to tell Swiss Cheese that he doesn't understand how bad May's deal was, and that the way to a good deal was to have the political will to pretend we didn't want one.

 

[west didsblue]

Owned :-)

Thank fuck for that.
Hopefully Swiss Cheese will also take ownership instead of trying to credit former Remainers for the position we’re in.