Another new Brexit thread

[Metal Biker]

Feel like my world has fallen apart mate, literally in a state of mourning now, sniff.

Stamping passports and arriving earlier? Oh my god will it ever end?

Has such a practice ever been executed successfully before!?

 

[BobKowalski]

Oh, brilliant.

So long as EU state owned companies can continue to run our utilities and take the profits abroad, then all's tickety-boo.

Taking Back Control

Well, yes. Barnier did call it a very good agreement for a reason :)

 

[stonerblue]

temper, temper

Benalmedena is a shit hole

 

[stonerblue]

Has such a practice ever been executed successfully before!?

If you'd ever left the country you wouldn't need to ask..

 

[Metal Biker]

If you'd ever left the country you wouldn't need to ask..

Maybe if I hadn't had my wages stagnated due to cheap labour, I might have done. :)

 

[hilts]

It will always be the little things making life that tiny bit difficult in a thousand different ways.

The weird thing is no one ever posts about how life will be a tiny bit better in a thousand different ways.

Perhaps you should. :)

Sorry mate I didn’t think I would get through the folding bike thing, it was a tough time but just as I’ve managed to feel better(never be the same though) this happens. Stamping and orderly queues it’s too much.

It’s all too raw at the moment.

I just don’t think I take bad news very well.

Just need some space at this time. I’m sure you understand.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Oh, brilliant.

So long as EU state owned companies can continue to run our utilities and take the profits abroad, then all's tickety-boo.

Taking Back Control

every contract these days seems to go to a Tory MP's mate, so I don't think it will make any difference.

 

[mcfc1632]

The more "genuine" the Brexit, the more damaging to the UK's future.

Everyone admits it but you.

That is just bollocks

Sorry - that is the full extent of assessment that your posts warrants

From the POV of someone seeking a 'genuine Brexit' - then all is good - in fact very good

From the POV of someone obsessing about pre-referendum campaign promises - well, my only advice is that you should get over it/yourself

 

[blueparrot]

First person I’ve met directly effected by this came into my shop today and was saying they have been told they may not have any work in January because the castings coming from Spain are stuck and ifthey aren’t delivered by January they aren’t sure what the rules will be for getting them delivered, to mention knowing if the cost will increase.

 

[hilts]

Has such a practice ever been executed successfully before!?

Certainly not in my time, I saw a film once think it was called airplane or something, Jeff bridges dad was in it. They were queueing in that so i turned it off as it seemed a bit too far fetched for my liking.

 

[mcfc1632]

There's an element of truth to this no doubt.

I would rather we hadn't left the EU, but now that we have I'm desperate for a good deal for our country. Currently, I couldn't give much of a shit what the EU want.

Indeed, well said

Some of us are living in the here and now of December 2020 and hoping for the best post-Brexit outcome for the UK

Others are still not able to get over the referendum result/themselves and are just lost in whingeing

 

[Metal Biker]

Certainly not in my time, I saw a film once think it was called airplane or something, Jeff bridges dad was in it. They were queueing in that so i turned it off as it seemed a bit too far fetched for my liking.

Makes you wonder how people arriving from outside the EU arrive in the EU and UK.

 

[mcfc1632]

Let us know how much we're paying for it.

Just being out - and not paying for it - is better than being in the EU

So the answer to the question:

"Let us know when a new deal is better than what we had previously via the EU."

Is - right now

 

[mcfc1632]

Another one of the perpetually wrong, you've been telling us that any deals we attempt will take years. if not decades, well that was yet more bullshit wasn't it? And what is the problem adopting a deal under existing arrangements, if they're satisfactory, without adopting Mexican laws to be the arbiter of them,
and not paying for the privilege?
Each and every one of your forecasts keep getting tossed into the bin of remoaner objections, which is about the size of a fucking skip now.

They have been proven to be wrong in every stance they have taken since before the referendum

Twisting the facts of today and the history of recent years seems to be their way of avoiding 'facing up to the hard reality'

 

[Metal Biker]

Just being out - and not paying for it is - is better than being in the EU

So the answer to the question:

"Let us know when a new deal is better than what we had previously via the EU."

Is - right now

They're pretty much asking us to convince Utd fans why supporting City is a better option.

They'll never understand because they are opposed to it.

 

[mcfc1632]

The WA was agreed and signed by this Govt. The NI protocols, an internal customs border, leaving NI partly in the EU were all the product of this Govt.

In other news the EU may compromise on fish. A prediction that has been confidently made for the past few months by virtually everyone on this board.

You are becoming increasingly disingenuous - just IMO of course

 

[BobKowalski]

Sorry mate I didn’t think I would get through the folding bike thing, it was a tough time but just as I’ve managed to feel better(never be the same though) this happens. Stamping and orderly queues it’s too much.

It’s all too raw at the moment.

I just don’t think I take bad news very well.

Just need some space at this time. I’m sure you understand.

Which is kind of the point. Everything so far is about removal, of things being taken away. Some big, some small, but the direction of travel is what you have, you will no longer have.

So, where is the counter argument? What does Brexit bring? How does Brexit make life that little bit easier, that little bit better?

I’m not talking about grand visions, but the small things, tell me what Brexit adds.

The floor is open. Over to you.

 

[M18CTID]

Not like the Tories and the EU to concentrate on getting it right for the Corporate sector.

Any deal will be a stitch up that ensures the corporate sector can continue raping the system. Tory finances will look healthier tonight as the wealthy donors send in there thank you cheques. The added bonus of access to the public sector is a bonus, it is not a BREXIT benefit outsourcing public sector contracts to the Romanian equivalent of SERCO.

We need no deal so we can take back those foreign owned parts of the public sector and put them back into public ownership that benefits the people of the UK , not shareholders in EU based corporations.

The Tories are making sure the axles of capitalism are well oiled indeed. Quelle quelle honte, mais pas une surprise.

Not sure whether I’ve interpreted this correctly. Are you saying you prefer us to leave without a deal Rasc?

 

[Rascal]

Not sure whether I’ve interpreted this correctly. Are you saying you prefer us to leave without a deal Rasc?

Yes. That is correct.

 

[west didsblue]

Which is kind of the point. Everything so far is about removal, of things being taken away. Some big, some small, but the direction of travel is what you have, you will no longer have.

So, where is the counter argument? What does Brexit bring? How does Brexit make life that little bit easier, that little bit better?

I’m not talking about grand visions, but the small things, tell me what Brexit adds.

The floor is open. Over to you.

If not for Brexit you wouldn’t be able to sit around with a smug grin because the Europeans will have to pay a bit more for Stilton and Whisky. Brexit is all about getting one over on other people and if we’re worse off as a result it’s a price worth paying.