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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
They might not want a new member who wont sign up to the ''closer political integration'' that we signed up to in The Treaty of Rome'' and then spent close on 50 years trying not to get involved in closer political integration.

Plus we've hardly behaved like a partner that can be trusted have we?
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Correct, so both sides are happier. That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for 4 years. Britain never bought into the closer political integration and never will. Now we’re out they can get on and build their paradise, let’s just see if the people of Europe really want what they’re offering. They no longer have the Brits to blame if it goes tits up.
 
hgblue said:
Correct, so both sides are happier. That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for 4 years. Britain never bought into the closer political integration and never will. Now we’re out they can get on and build their paradise, let’s just see if the people of Europe really want what they’re offering. They no longer have the Brits to blame if it goes tits up.
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Funny thing is is that a lot of the 27 nations were blaming the Brits for holding them back. I'm just shocked they didn't ask us to leave sooner.
 
BobKowalski said:
Faisal Islam with the snark as Johnson Senior, who announced he is ‘now a leaver’, is set to claim French nationality. I guess when he said he was a leaver he meant it literally!

‘SJ was well known pro-EU campaigner, even on Cameron’s bus day before EUref.. but the PM’s Dad announcing on French radio he’s going to claim French citizenship/EU passport on day those rights stop for rest UK as result of his son’s deal is a... plot twist‘

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Brexit : le père de Boris Johnson souhaite obtenir la nationalité française

Si Boris Johnson a toujours été un partisan du Brexit, ce n'est pas le cas de son père, qui veut obtenir la nationalité française.
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He is surely just exercising his rights as an individual - what is it that you find wrong with that?

Is he supposed to be held personally responsible for the 'sins of his son'?
 
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BobKowalski said:
Or lobby the Biden admin to ease them. Biden wants to re-engage with the EU and has already prioritised links with Paris and Berlin over London.

A lot of the Biden team are from the Obama days and they haven’t forgotten or forgiven Johnson’s ’part Kenyan‘ dig.
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I admire the way the incoming US president and his team take you into their confidence
 
smudgedj said:
Of course. Should be interesting watching them explain how giving up sovereignty, control of borders, laws and economics will benefit us. Not forgetting, of course, that new members are obliged to give up their currency (and therefore any control of the economy) and join the success that is the €
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Of course we get to see Sturgeon rehearse this sales pitch
 
hgblue said:
Correct, so both sides are happier. That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for 4 years. Britain never bought into the closer political integration and never will. Now we’re out they can get on and build their paradise, let’s just see if the people of Europe really want what they’re offering. They no longer have the Brits to blame if it goes tits up.
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In the end though brexit won't be judged as good or bad on political stuff like integration, which court settles trade disputes, whether foreign fishermen can catch 25 or 30% less fish.
Opinions long term will be based purely on personal situations, on jobs, prices, economy, getting the shopping they want when they want it. If that all stays the same most people will lose interest in the eu as a subject and be happy, if those things go badly then it will carry on being a political hot potato.
 
smudgedj said:
Of course. Should be interesting watching them explain how giving up sovereignty, control of borders, laws and economics will benefit us. Not forgetting, of course, that new members are obliged to give up their currency (and therefore any control of the economy) and join the success that is the €
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When you say ‘them’ that includes me in case you got confused there! It was a serious point I was making and got liked by Leavers!
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
They might not want a new member who wont sign up to the ''closer political integration'' that we signed up to in The Treaty of Rome'' and then spent close on 50 years trying not to get involved in closer political integration.

Plus we've hardly behaved like a partner that can be trusted have we?
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Fuck - that has crushed all our hopes and dreams for the future
 
mcfc1632 said:
He is surely just exercising his rights as an individual - what is it that you find wrong with that?

Is he supposed to be held personally responsible for the 'sins of his son?
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I find it hilarious. It’s the perfect metaphor for the Johnson‘s and Brexit.

“It’s going to be really great for Britain, now help me pack because I’m buggering off to France.”
 
blue for life said:
When you say ‘them’ that includes me in case you got confused there! It was a serious point I was making and got liked by Leavers!
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Because we respect democracy and your right to argue and campaign to rejoin. Doesn't mean we agree with the sentiment to do so.

Would have been nice had the same courtesy been shpown to us these past few years but that's now ancient history.
 
smudgedj said:
Why would any sane government bin a currency union and leave a single market, with freedom of movement, that would be crazy. :-)
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She's now got to sell leaving a trade agreement with the EU and enter into negotiations to rejoin which could take years.

Vote for independence, likely lose the Shetland Islands, get a couple of years uncertainty outside the UK and EU unions, then rejoin the EU, adopt the Euro, join the Eurozone, Schengen, the massive debt contributions and EU budget payments. Sign me up.
 
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