Antoine Griezmann?

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Dax777 said:
Came into this thread to see if you had agreed with me again. Turns out you have. Ha! Like seeing my students grow :p
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Erm, bit weird! Haha!

I thought about Greisman all by myself, no arbitrary stats required. I was going to start a new thread, but instead searched for one so as not to clog up the board. Saw this one hadn't been posted on for 6 weeks and made my own post without reading any of the others.

So, unfortunately, no, I've not agreed with you as I don't even know what your opinion / "statistical analysis" of Greisman.

The only thing I've learned from you is to not take people too seriously who value statistics over human observational analysis when it comes to judging football players. :-)
 
His agent just said that they are listening to offers. He is open for a move. Could it be possible? I would pay whatever is needed to bring him in.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Erm, bit weird! Haha!

I thought about Greisman all by myself, no arbitrary stats required. I was going to start a new thread, but instead searched for one so as not to clog up the board. Saw this one hadn't been posted on for 6 weeks and made my own post without reading any of the others.

So, unfortunately, no, I've not agreed with you as I don't even know what your opinion / "statistical analysis" of Greisman.

The only thing I've learned from you is to not take people too seriously who value statistics over human observational analysis when it comes to judging football players. :-)
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You've got to love the smell of misguided arrogance in morning:-)
 
Top player, no doubt, just can't see us going in for him other than to maybe drive the price up.

I think Sane will be the one we go for.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Top player, no doubt, just can't see us going in for him other than to maybe drive the price up.

I think Sane will be the one we go for.
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Yup me too. I know I will get shouted down for this, and the comment isn't aimed at Griezmann in isolation (and nor should it be taken that I wouldn't want such a quality player if we had the right supporting cast in place), but he's another tiny player. I really want some height, physicality and aggression in the City squad next season, or the rags, the dippers, West Ham and the other teams that bullied us to defeat last season will do so again, Pep or no Pep. This is a unique league. Pogba is a must in midfield and I'd prefer Morata up top over must other attacking options
 
Would love him. Perfect for us. Everything I assume we hoped Sterling would be.
Sadly a signing I can not see us making. Hed pretty much make Sterling redundant.
We can't possibly consider Sterling as anything other than an equivelent with the right coaching.

For me, Sterling will never will be at this level. A level we need and a level his fee and Txiki's determination to sign him suggests he should be at one day soon.
 
schfc6 said:
Would love him. Perfect for us. Everything I assume we hoped Sterling would be.
Sadly a signing I can not see us making. Hed pretty much make Sterling redundant.
We can't possibly consider Sterling as anything other than an equivelent with the right coaching.

For me, Sterling will never will be at this level. A level we need and a level his fee and Txiki's determination to sign him suggests he should be at one day soon.
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Sterling is only 21, 10 goals and 11 assists isn't too bad. Plenty of room for improvement though and I expect him to.

Greizmann is left footed for a start and is better on the right cutting in, whereas Sterling is the opposite, so they could play very well together in the same side.

Greizmann can also play in the middle when Aguero isn't available and actually could replace him in 3 or 4 years time when Kun goes back to Argentina.

Central midfield is clearly our weakest area, and then for me right wing comes next.

We ideally want someone left footed who can play on the right with real pace and quality. That's why we're linked with Sane. But if Griezmann is available we should throw the kitchen sink at it.
 
probably the only player potentially on the market available that I would absolutely hate if he ended up at one of our title rivals.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Sterling is only 21, 10 goals and 11 assists isn't too bad. Plenty of room for improvement though and I expect him to.

Greizmann is left footed for a start and is better on the right cutting in, whereas Sterling is the opposite, so they could play very well together in the same side.

Greizmann can also play in the middle when Aguero isn't available and actually could replace him in 3 or 4 years time when Kun goes back to Argentina.

Central midfield is clearly our weakest area, and then for me right wing comes next.

We ideally want someone left footed who can play on the right with real pace and quality. That's why we're linked with Sane. But if Griezmann is available we should throw the kitchen sink at it.
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He pretty much never plays from the right. He started as a tradition left wing. He's progressed into a second or primary striker. He's not Robben like.
He's a more dynamic Sterling, suited to play from the left. He is far better than Sterling centrally.

I'm not Sterling's biggest critic, but those stats are pretty flat track on paper. Not one fan in the stadium vs Arsenal thought he'd change the game for the better, some even boo'd.
£44 million should be getting you game changers. Not potential game changers. Griezman would be a game changer.
I don't think Pep will turn Sterling into one of the most exciting players in the World. I thought he'd be an excellent signing. So far, he's been a leg down.

I reserve judgment till September, but looking at the players we are being most heavily linked with, I think Txiki will have another mare.
If he signs another £30 + centre half he should be sacked on the spot.

Pep is a great coach and Mangala, Otamendi, Kompany and Denayer are a better centre half selection than any other he's worked with.

Griezman should have been signed two years ago. He'd had a good World Cup personally and was very impressive at Sociedad.

My main issue with Txiki, he's buying good players for excellent player money. Much like Sterling and Otamendi. Otamendi went for peanuts the summer we signed Mangala. I could do that.
 
Best forward in the world after Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Lewandowski and Aguero if you ask me.
 
CityFan94 said:
Would it be fair to say Griezmann is the best available player in the world this summer?
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Pogba is. But we don't know it yet... Griezmann just fits the bill. I think Reus bar injury, Bale, Neymar, Dybala, and a host of others also fit the bill.

But Pogba is where the difference is.
 
schfc6 said:
He pretty much never plays from the right. He started as a tradition left wing. He's progressed into a second or primary striker. He's not Robben like.
He's a more dynamic Sterling, suited to play from the left. He is far better than Sterling centrally.

I'm not Sterling's biggest critic, but those stats are pretty flat track on paper. Not one fan in the stadium vs Arsenal thought he'd change the game for the better, some even boo'd.
£44 million should be getting you game changers. Not potential game changers. Griezman would be a game changer.
I don't think Pep will turn Sterling into one of the most exciting players in the World. I thought he'd be an excellent signing. So far, he's been a leg down.

I reserve judgment till September, but looking at the players we are being most heavily linked with, I think Txiki will have another mare.
If he signs another £30 + centre half he should be sacked on the spot.

Pep is a great coach and Mangala, Otamendi, Kompany and Denayer are a better centre half selection than any other he's worked with.

Griezman should have been signed two years ago. He'd had a good World Cup personally and was very impressive at Sociedad.

My main issue with Txiki, he's buying good players for excellent player money. Much like Sterling and Otamendi. Otamendi went for peanuts the summer we signed Mangala. I could do that.
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Most of the runs on his highlights video are him running down the right channel and cutting in on his left, basically the reverse of Henry.

If he's played a lot of games left wing and down the middle I'm sure Pep can mould him in to a right forward / winger.

Even if he's not played much there he's got all the tools; pace, good at running with the ball, good touch, great left foot, good vision, great finisher.
 
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