Any past or present City player everybody seems to rate but you don't

Xhavenjoe said:
Cancelo for me too.
Was rolling around on the ground yesterday like he'd been harpooned by a Japanese whale hunter. I don't like the way he "tackles" and just seems to be missing when the opposition is on the attack.
The most punchable face in the current team.
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Gundogan told him to fuck off after that feigning injury incident the other night.
 
leithblue said:
I don’t think Daniel Van Buyten was quite the combination of Bobby Moore, Franco Baresi and Franz Beckenbauer that would have led us to multiple trophies like some believe.

He only played half a dozen times and was stroppy for most of it.
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I agree! Didn’t one of his teammates of the time recently say in a video that he wasn’t all that as well?
 
Long Slow Goodbye said:
To be fair Kompany’s form purely from a defensive perspective nosedived after Mancini left, to a point where Demichelis became our most reliable defender for about 18 months til his legs went. He never looked like he belonged at Champions League level either.

He primarily made a name for himself ragdolling Rooney in the derbies and a few iconic goals, but he his peak here came as part of a system that also made Lescott look like a top 4 defender. Dias and Stones last year reached levels I’ve never seen from City central defenders, as reflected in the fact they were probably the catalysts for us reaching our first CL final.
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Wow.
 
Long Slow Goodbye said:
To be fair Kompany’s form purely from a defensive perspective nosedived after Mancini left, to a point where Demichelis became our most reliable defender for about 18 months til his legs went. He never looked like he belonged at Champions League level either.

He primarily made a name for himself ragdolling Rooney in the derbies and a few iconic goals, but he his peak here came as part of a system that also made Lescott look like a top 4 defender. Dias and Stones last year reached levels I’ve never seen from City central defenders, as reflected in the fact they were probably the catalysts for us reaching our first CL final.
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This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this forum. Vincent Kompany was a brilliant tackler, marker, passer, organiser, leader, footballer. I am old, and for me he is in the top 3 City centre backs in my lifetime (going since 1965) along with Ruben Dias and Dave Watson. To say he didn’t even belong at CL level makes you the most foolish of clowns; either that or a particularly pathetic wind up. I have had to walk away from your post and come back to it an hour later to make sure it was real and not a surreal dream
 
BringBackSwales said:
This is quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this forum. Vincent Kompany was a brilliant tackler, marker, passer, organiser, leader, footballer. I am old, and for me he is in the top 3 City centre backs in my lifetime (going since 1965) along with Ruben Dias and Dave Watson. To say he didn’t even belong at CL level makes you the most foolish of clowns; either that or a particularly pathetic wind up. I have had to walk away from your post and come back to it an hour later to make sure it was real and not a surreal dream
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No point getting upset. If people think like that about a player they think like that about a player. I know thought policing is all the rage these days, but I think this thread has been a cathartic exercise.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
No point getting upset. If people think like that about a player they think like that about a player. I know thought policing is all the rage these days, but I think this thread has been a cathartic exercise.
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In the beginning of the thread I thought this is daft everyone has a different opinion or we would all be Zombies. Then I got mad when someone said Dunnie, then VK.... Now I just think it is one of the most hilarious threads ever. :-)




EDIT: I was going to say YaYa can you imagine the uproar if I had? ;-)
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Forgot about Biggins.never took to him. I think mainly cos he kept Paul Moulden out of the team .
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Really liked Paul Moulden, definitely thought he was good enough for division 1, he wasn't the biggest or fastest but he was decent up front and could play the ball.
 
Buster Phillips. Obviously not everybody rated him, but Alan Ball reckoned he was going to be a world beater. And,
Terry Cooke, if it hadn’t been for the fact he came from the rags and that was fun to sing about, he was pretty lightweight.
 
David white.

there is no point running down the wing like a greyhound if at the end of your sprint you cross the ball into the top corner of the north stand ( again )
 
Whether or not said:
Buster Phillips. Obviously not everybody rated him, but Alan Ball reckoned he was going to be a world beater. And,
Terry Cooke, if it hadn’t been for the fact he came from the rags and that was fun to sing about, he was pretty lightweight.
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cooke was one of those players who was excellent whilst on loan but the moment we actually signed him predictably he turned to shite .
 
Eccles Blue said:
In the beginning of the thread I thought this is daft everyone has a different opinion or we would all be Zombies. Then I got mad when someone said Dunnie, then VK.... Now I just think it is one of the most hilarious threads ever. :-)




EDIT: I was going to say YaYa can you imagine the uproar if I had? ;-)
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Don't even think about posting that one!!!
 
Phil1 said:
It should just be a simple case of individual posters not rating a player as highly as others do.
Not sure why anybody is getting stressed about it tbh.
If this subject causes some disharmony then I’d question why?
Of course when the names of our legends are getting thrown in it rankles a bit but anybody calling out the likes of Kompany and Aguero are often just looking for attention and should be treated as such.
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Bang on. I personally think some of our players since the takeover are vastly overrated and are darlings of sections of the crowd, whereas we have others who get slaughtered for every little mistake. It is what it is.
 
Eccles Blue said:
In the beginning of the thread I thought this is daft everyone has a different opinion or we would all be Zombies. Then I got mad when someone said Dunnie, then VK.... Now I just think it is one of the most hilarious threads ever. :-)




EDIT: I was going to say YaYa can you imagine the uproar if I had? ;-)
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We're all different, and some are more or less different than others. As they say, opinions are like arseholes... everybody has one.

My brother would argue long and hard that Colin Bell was hugely overrated. Never to the point that we actually fell out, but he would never concede. His argument was based on the view that working 50% harder than everyone else didn't make someone a 'great' player.

I have always had a similar view on Vincent Kompany - A very good player whose magnificent leadership skills rather than playing skills raised his stature above many others in the game. As I've said, a world class leader of men, someone who inspired others to do better.

I think the point some people have missed in this thread is that expressing the opinion that someone is overrated isn't necessarily criticism.

'World class' is a very overused, subjective rating in football. Whether it's about a performance, a goal, a save, a tackle, a pass etc... Everyone has a different idea on how 'great' or 'awful' things are. It's all about individual opinions.

We know when we open the Bluemoon forum that we're going to read a lot of nonsense. It's no more than a bit of fun. We know we won't agree with everything we read. It would be bloody boring if we did.

People should take comments on here with a pinch of salt. Just because one doesn’t agree with others doesn’t make them wrong, it just means they have a different view.

I still don’t agree with my brother about Colin Bell, but I respect his opinion. People take things far too seriously... It's just an Internet website where a few people post opinions. It's not important in the great scheme of things.
 
mccity said:
Yeah, there are a few odd opinions here, but that's precisely the point of the thread. It's quite refreshing.
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I agree, a lot of people seem to forget the primary function of a forum is to exchange ideas and opinions. If we all agreed with each other there wouldn’t be any exchange of ideas.

I don’t mind people who don’t agree with me saying I’m wrong (I’m married so I’m used to it !).
 
Lavinda Past said:
We're all different, and some are more or less different than others. As they say, opinions are like arseholes... everybody has one.

My brother would argue long and hard that Colin Bell was hugely overrated. Never to the point that we actually fell out, but he would never concede. His argument was based on the view that working 50% harder than everyone else didn't make someone a 'great' player.

I have always had a similar view on Vincent Kompany - A very good player whose magnificent leadership skills rather than playing skills raised his stature above many others in the game. As I've said, a world class leader of men, someone who inspired others to do better.

I think the point some people have missed in this thread is that expressing the opinion that someone is overrated isn't necessarily criticism.

'World class' is a very overused, subjective rating in football. Whether it's about a performance, a goal, a save, a tackle, a pass etc... Everyone has a different idea on how 'great' or 'awful' things are. It's all about individual opinions.

We know when we open the Bluemoon forum that we're going to read a lot of nonsense. It's no more than a bit of fun. We know we won't agree with everything we read. It would be bloody boring if we did.

People should take comments on here with a pinch of salt. Just because one doesn’t agree with others doesn’t make them wrong, it just means they have a different view.

I still don’t agree with my brother about Colin Bell, but I respect his opinion. People take things far too seriously... It's just an Internet website where a few people post opinions. It's not important in the great scheme of things.
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I dont think I’ve ever heard anyone say Colin Bell was overrated.

If you take a player like Jordan Henderson who works hard, but essentially runs around in circles , makes a load of square and backwards passes and points a lot he is, to me, the epitome of overrated. Yet he is highly rated by many and won Player of the Year, something Colin never did.

Colin Bell was a true box to box player, a brilliant passer, great with both feet and his head and a great tackler. He was the engine of the best City team I have seen (apart from the last ten years). He may not have had the magic skills of David Silva but he is still, IMO, one of the top three players to ever play for us.
 
Lavinda Past said:
We're all different, and some are more or less different than others. As they say, opinions are like arseholes... everybody has one.

My brother would argue long and hard that Colin Bell was hugely overrated. Never to the point that we actually fell out, but he would never concede. His argument was based on the view that working 50% harder than everyone else didn't make someone a 'great' player.

I have always had a similar view on Vincent Kompany - A very good player whose magnificent leadership skills rather than playing skills raised his stature above many others in the game. As I've said, a world class leader of men, someone who inspired others to do better.

I think the point some people have missed in this thread is that expressing the opinion that someone is overrated isn't necessarily criticism.

'World class' is a very overused, subjective rating in football. Whether it's about a performance, a goal, a save, a tackle, a pass etc... Everyone has a different idea on how 'great' or 'awful' things are. It's all about individual opinions.

We know when we open the Bluemoon forum that we're going to read a lot of nonsense. It's no more than a bit of fun. We know we won't agree with everything we read. It would be bloody boring if we did.

People should take comments on here with a pinch of salt. Just because one doesn’t agree with others doesn’t make them wrong, it just means they have a different view.

I still don’t agree with my brother about Colin Bell, but I respect his opinion. People take things far too seriously... It's just an Internet website where a few people post opinions. It's not important in the great scheme of things.
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Tbh I've never held Kompany in the same reverence as I did Touré, Silva, or Aguero as a pure footballer, even if I did still rate him very highly and could argue he was much more important to the team than they were at times (albeit for other valuable reasons). I've felt the same about Fernandinho and Zabaleta in the past too, even though I think very highly of them both.

I think if Kompany came today we'd see him as being a right footed version of Laporte. An excellent CB with a great passing range. But also one who gets a bit overly excited at times, can be clumsy on occasion, and makes the odd error. Although unlike Laporte we'd still be in huge admiration of Kompany's personality.
 
Either Schmiechel
Elder one was living off former glories, whilst the younger (throughout his career) has been the epitome of The Emporer's New Clothes
 
Eccles Blue said:
In the beginning of the thread I thought this is daft everyone has a different opinion or we would all be Zombies. Then I got mad when someone said Dunnie, then VK.... Now I just think it is one of the most hilarious threads ever. :-)




EDIT: I was going to say YaYa can you imagine the uproar if I had? ;-)
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Yeh, from him.
 
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