Anyone know the legalities re Parking Fines

[East Level 2]

The law has changed but not the basic principle of whether they can penalise you. The law is that the only contract that exists is between the driver at the time of the incident and the landowner. So it used to be that they issued the penalty to the owner but, to be enforceable, they had to be sure who was driving at that time. As there was no legal responsibilty for the owner to inform the parking company who was driving then by ignoring it, you were generally safe and the handful of prosecutions were only against people who were daft enough to admit they were the driver.

The law changed when they outlawed clamping so that the registered keeper of the car became responsible, regardless of who was driving. But the basic principle, that the landowner can only claim for the actual loss they've suffered, is still the same as I understand it. So the chances of a successful prosecution are still low.

So does this mean that unless they can prove all the other spaces were taken they can be told to piss off as the store or business park won't have lost any trade?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

TEST CASE LOST

The guy who brought the test case against a £100 charge for parking on a private car park has just lost his case.

OOer!

 

[urmston]

TEST CASE LOST

The guy who brought the test case against a £100 charge for parking on a private car park has just lost his case.

OOer!

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What's it come to in this country when you are not allowed to leave a ton and a half of your property on another person's land without asking permission?

I thought the Magna Carta enshrined our right to park anywhere we wanted.

 

[101toMR]

If it's a council one then pay it.
If it isn't just ignore the cheeky fuckers they will eventually go away.

 

[urmston]

If it's a council one then pay it.
If it isn't just ignore the cheeky fuckers they will eventually go away.

So I'm OK to park on your drive then whenever I please.

Assuming you don't live in a council house.

 

[101toMR]

If it's a council one then pay it.
If it isn't just ignore the cheeky fuckers they will eventually go away.

So I'm OK to park on your drive then whenever I please.

Assuming you don't live in a council house.

You could probably take it to the nth degree and have some repercussion if you did that.
But in general if you park in a public place and it isn't unsafe enough for the dibble to be involved then yes, you can park and ignore any ticket given you.

 

[urmston]

If it's a council one then pay it.
If it isn't just ignore the cheeky fuckers they will eventually go away.

So I'm OK to park on your drive then whenever I please.

Assuming you don't live in a council house.

You could probably take it to the nth degree and have some repercussion if you did that.
But in general if you park in a public place and it isn't unsafe enough for the dibble to be involved then yes, you can park and ignore any ticket given you.

Some repercussion?

So you don't mind people parking on private land.

Unless it is your private land!

 

[101toMR]

So I'm OK to park on your drive then whenever I please.

Assuming you don't live in a council house.

You could probably take it to the nth degree and have some repercussion if you did that.
But in general if you park in a public place and it isn't unsafe enough for the dibble to be involved then yes, you can park and ignore any ticket given you.

Some repercussion?

So you don't mind people parking on private land.

Unless it is your private land!

I didn't say that did I?
Read what's in front of you.
Personally I don't care where you park if it doesn't involve the police getting involved, but if you ticket me I wont pay it.
If I decided to park on your property which is pretty remote don't waste the paper on a false ticket.

 

[urmston]

You could probably take it to the nth degree and have some repercussion if you did that.
But in general if you park in a public place and it isn't unsafe enough for the dibble to be involved then yes, you can park and ignore any ticket given you.

Some repercussion?

So you don't mind people parking on private land.

Unless it is your private land!

I didn't say that did I?
Read what's in front of you.
Personally I don't care where you park if it doesn't involve the police getting involved, but if you ticket me I wont pay it.
If I decided to park on your property which is pretty remote don't waste the paper on a false ticket.

So I can park on your drive whenever I want.

And so can everyone else.

But I won't, because I have politeness, courtesy and good manners to respect the wishes and rules of private landowners, just as I want others to respect my private land.

Only selfish people park on other peoples land and they deserve all the fines and hassle they get.

Well done to the judge in upholding the parking charges on that idiot motorist.

 

[blueonblue]

No one but a court of law can impose a fine, not the council, not the police, and certainly not a private company, thats why they are called "Penalty notice", do your research if its a police or council one, because most councils fail to follow to the letter the regs on marking out spaces, not compliant with the regs means no offence.

In the case of private ones just throw them in the bin, in spite of whats been posted re the change in regulations (Not law) the registered keeper can not be held liable unless they admit to being the driver at the time, nor are they obliged to name the driver, You have "The right to remain silent" at any time, that INCLUDES in writing.

Any contract would be between the "Driver" and the private company claiming a loss, they then have to try and go to court for a breach of contract.