Anyone know the legalities re Parking Fines

[urmston]

No one but a court of law can impose a fine, not the council, not the police, and certainly not a private company, thats why they are called "Penalty notice", do your research if its a police or council one, because most councils fail to follow to the letter the regs on marking out spaces, not compliant with the regs means no offence.

In the case of private ones just throw them in the bin, in spite of whats been posted re the change in regulations (Not law) the registered keeper can not be held liable unless they admit to being the driver at the time, nor are they obliged to name the driver, You have "The right to remain silent" at any time, that INCLUDES in writing.

Any contract would be between the "Driver" and the private company claiming a loss, they then have to try and go to court for a breach of contract.

You are behind the times.

In 2012 when clamping on private land was banned the law also made the keeper of a vehicle responsible for any charges.

It bans vehicle immobilisation and/or removal without lawful authority, and provides private landholders with additional powers to pursue the registered keeper of a vehicle for unpaid parking charges providing certain conditions are met.



If your name is on the logbook, you are the one responsible for the charges.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... harges.pdf</a>

 

[blueonblue]

No one but a court of law can impose a fine, not the council, not the police, and certainly not a private company, thats why they are called "Penalty notice", do your research if its a police or council one, because most councils fail to follow to the letter the regs on marking out spaces, not compliant with the regs means no offence.

In the case of private ones just throw them in the bin, in spite of whats been posted re the change in regulations (Not law) the registered keeper can not be held liable unless they admit to being the driver at the time, nor are they obliged to name the driver, You have "The right to remain silent" at any time, that INCLUDES in writing.

Any contract would be between the "Driver" and the private company claiming a loss, they then have to try and go to court for a breach of contract.

You are behind the times.

In 2012 when clamping on private land was banned the law also made the keeper of a vehicle responsible for any charges.

It bans vehicle immobilisation and/or removal without lawful authority, and provides private landholders with additional powers to pursue the registered keeper of a vehicle for unpaid parking charges providing certain conditions are met.



If your name is on the logbook, you are the one responsible for the charges.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... harges.pdf</a>

Yes, that's what it imply s, and it is utter bollocks to hoodwink the gullible.

No liability can ever be passed to another person under contract law, nor can an owner be compelled to give any information to a private company no matter how it reads, f*ck em, bin it.

 

[101toMR]

Get it binned just as blueonblue has advised.

 

[kas_tippler]

Private parking fines aren't enforceable, had two in the past. Throw in the bin and ignore the threats.

 

[urmston]

No one but a court of law can impose a fine, not the council, not the police, and certainly not a private company, thats why they are called "Penalty notice", do your research if its a police or council one, because most councils fail to follow to the letter the regs on marking out spaces, not compliant with the regs means no offence.

In the case of private ones just throw them in the bin, in spite of whats been posted re the change in regulations (Not law) the registered keeper can not be held liable unless they admit to being the driver at the time, nor are they obliged to name the driver, You have "The right to remain silent" at any time, that INCLUDES in writing.

Any contract would be between the "Driver" and the private company claiming a loss, they then have to try and go to court for a breach of contract.

You are behind the times.

In 2012 when clamping on private land was banned the law also made the keeper of a vehicle responsible for any charges.

It bans vehicle immobilisation and/or removal without lawful authority, and provides private landholders with additional powers to pursue the registered keeper of a vehicle for unpaid parking charges providing certain conditions are met.



If your name is on the logbook, you are the one responsible for the charges.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... harges.pdf</a>

Yes, that's what it imply s, and it is utter bollocks to hoodwink the gullible.

No liability can ever be passed to another person under contract law, nor can an owner be compelled to give any information to a private company no matter how it reads, f*ck em, bin it.

The Protection of Freedom Act 2012 referred to in that government document specifically allows liability to be transferred from a driver to the registered keeper of a vehicle under certain circumstances.

Nobody is compelling a keeper to provide any information to anyone, but the law now allows a landowner to pursue a keeper of a vehicle for charges if the keeper does not name the driver.

9.3
The registered keeper has 28 days after receiving a notice from the landholder in which to provide the driver’s details, pay the parking charge, or appeal against the ticket. If the registered keeper fails to do any of these things the landholder may begin proceedings to recover the parking charge from the registered keeper (see Q1 FAQ).


Breaking any contract can result in civil proceedings which you could lose.

Breaking a car parking contract is not an exception to this rule.

If you find private parking rules too difficult to adhere to perhaps you shouldn't be driving at all as you are probably too thick to understand other things like speed limits and the meanings of road signs.

They aren't difficult to understand and I've never had the slightest problem.

 

[101toMR]

Are you a car parking attendant?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

perhaps all you ranting supporters of the decision would care to wipe the spittle off your chins.

The court decision was not about parking on private land
it was about the right to charge unreasonable charges for parking in private carparks.

 

[blueonblue]

Dear oh dear urmston, you are a gullible fellow, you go straight into "Breaking any contract can result in civil proceedings which you could lose" without the understanding that there is NO CONTRACT with anyone but the driver.

Nor can any court in the land, least of all a county court where breach of contract would be heard, compel anyone to say one f*cking word about who the driver may have been, your right of silence is absolute and protected under common law which is the highest law of the land.

The bin is the only place for such nonsense.

 

[urmston]

Are you a car parking attendant?

No.

Car park rules are blindingly obvious to anyone who can read, and easy to stick to for anyone who can also tell the time.

Just how dim do you have to be to get into any problems about such an easy thing to understand?

If I did I'd keep quiet about it.

Why let everyone know you are thick, like this silly motorist who went to court to whine about being charged for staying longer than he'd agreed to?

 

[urmston]

Dear oh dear urmston, you are a gullible fellow, you go straight into "Breaking any contract can result in civil proceedings which you could lose" without the understanding that there is NO CONTRACT with anyone but the driver.

Nor can any court in the land, least of all a county court where breach of contract would be heard, compel anyone to say one f*cking word about who the driver may have been, your right of silence is absolute and protected under common law which is the highest law of the land.

The bin is the only place for such nonsense.

You should read the law.

Nobody can compel the keeper of the car to say anything at all, but the law now allows the keeper to be pursued for charges if he doesn't name the driver.

I'm afraid the old 'I wasn't driving' loophole has been closed as far as parking is concerned.

You are a bit gullible if you think government lawyers draw up laws which can be ignored by everyone,

Make sure you only lend your car to people who can understand parking rules or you might be paying their penalty charges for them.