oh fuck off
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Are City really ruining football?
- Thread starter Pingu the Penguin
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oh fuck off
The cartel(s) had a chance to improve the overall football 'product' around 2012-2014, they amateurly chose to attack the precieved upstart in as many ways as they could think up (snide media, FFP biased rules, our 'pinch', 'sportswashing', 'strange' ref decisions, general bigging up the cartel clubs... all for the short term attempted unquantified gain of 'stop City at all costs'.
The longer term, professional approach would have been to ignite, encourage and support further long-term external investment into an ever widening group of clubs, whilst ensuring all clubs had a level playing field of monetary control and costs, and smoothing out the collective shared income available (eg TV money) to all clubs in the PL and lower.
But they didn't, because they were blinded by 'stop City!', and the last 5-6 years have been a consequence of their own appalingly biased and blinkered decisions, so fuck 'em.
It's a bed they made, and will have to live with, until they finally do the right thing and drop the pandering to the (generally) red shirted US owned clubs.
The longer term, professional approach would have been to ignite, encourage and support further long-term external investment into an ever widening group of clubs, whilst ensuring all clubs had a level playing field of monetary control and costs, and smoothing out the collective shared income available (eg TV money) to all clubs in the PL and lower.
But they didn't, because they were blinded by 'stop City!', and the last 5-6 years have been a consequence of their own appalingly biased and blinkered decisions, so fuck 'em.
It's a bed they made, and will have to live with, until they finally do the right thing and drop the pandering to the (generally) red shirted US owned clubs.
The talent should be spread across teams, stockpiling players will reduce the competitiveness as these extra players could be a valuable asset in another team. Just because we can buy doesn't mean we should. Keep that money for a position that is needed - a striker or a DM.
we are not stockpiling all our players play
stockpiling is what rags have with donny van der beek
Jesus H Gabz
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This all sounds like the American version of competitive sport, a closed shop where every player is drafted & most of the money is syphoned off, Super League anyone? Pep has always stockpiled midfielders, that will never change, it’s called the engine room for a reason, no engine no movementThe talent should be spread across teams, stockpiling players will reduce the competitiveness as these extra players could be a valuable asset in another team. Just because we can buy doesn't mean we should. Keep that money for a position that is needed - a striker or a DM.
jimharri
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Of course we are. Get with the programme/agenda*.
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oh fuck off
Calm down. Many others have explained their POV very reasonably.
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Football was already ruined before City rose to the top.
It was ruined over the course of a few decades by bunch of knobhead football clubs with overinflated egos and delusions of grandeur who manipulated football to suit themselves, to keep themselves at the top, to keep themselves rich and always making sure they were richer than everyone else so there was no threat of their gravy train ever being taken off the rails. A predictable, closed shop for the same set of cunts all the time.
City just came came along and ruined their horrible gravy train… but football was already ruined.
To a certain extent, Chelsea and Paris are on our side of things. But Chelsea were actually part of that “Sky 4” problem through the 00s (remember “Grand Slam Sundays” when no other teams in the country existed on a Sunday afternoon 6 times a season where it was just the fixtures between United Arsenal Chelsea and Liverpool on Sky?!), and Paris were a founder member of the G14 which is where the Cartel emerged from and where the rules to manipulate football originated.
But it’s the dirty redshirts of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Bayern Munchen who have done nothing but moan like fuck for nearly 14 years about City. As well as colluding together with other clubs in the Cartel like Real Madrid and Barcelona, putting their men in the top jobs at UEFA, and their attempts to put a stop to our rise by going against all business laws in the real world by bringing in shit like FFP, and trumping up hacked emails and copy+pasting different parts of them together as their entire case to say we were failing their FFP.
These are literally the acts of a business cartel, and business cartels are illegal in the majority of countries because they are considered as promoters of anti-competitive practices.
Notice how Aston Villa, Sunderland, Everton, Athletic Bilbao, Genoa, Pro Vercelli, Nurnberg, Shalke etc. - who were each country’s top clubs before almost all of the Cartel ever became big clubs - never practiced illegal anti-competitive practices to keep themselves at the top, nor did they bring in FFP when the Cartel clubs started their rise to the top.
No, they weren’t as fucking insecure as the cunts in the Cartel.
The Cartel and their FFP have further ruined football because it stops other clubs - like Newcastle, for example, who could go on a 1950s-60s spending spree like Liverpool did or a 1980s-90s spending spree like United did before their eras of big sustained success - from investing to succeed like the Cartel or any other business in the world had done in the past.
Now everyone has to follow an FFP system that hinders any future growth for clubs with great potential for the simple fact that the cunts in the Cartel couldn’t face the fact or understand the fact that nothing lasts forever.
It was ruined over the course of a few decades by bunch of knobhead football clubs with overinflated egos and delusions of grandeur who manipulated football to suit themselves, to keep themselves at the top, to keep themselves rich and always making sure they were richer than everyone else so there was no threat of their gravy train ever being taken off the rails. A predictable, closed shop for the same set of cunts all the time.
City just came came along and ruined their horrible gravy train… but football was already ruined.
To a certain extent, Chelsea and Paris are on our side of things. But Chelsea were actually part of that “Sky 4” problem through the 00s (remember “Grand Slam Sundays” when no other teams in the country existed on a Sunday afternoon 6 times a season where it was just the fixtures between United Arsenal Chelsea and Liverpool on Sky?!), and Paris were a founder member of the G14 which is where the Cartel emerged from and where the rules to manipulate football originated.
But it’s the dirty redshirts of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Bayern Munchen who have done nothing but moan like fuck for nearly 14 years about City. As well as colluding together with other clubs in the Cartel like Real Madrid and Barcelona, putting their men in the top jobs at UEFA, and their attempts to put a stop to our rise by going against all business laws in the real world by bringing in shit like FFP, and trumping up hacked emails and copy+pasting different parts of them together as their entire case to say we were failing their FFP.
These are literally the acts of a business cartel, and business cartels are illegal in the majority of countries because they are considered as promoters of anti-competitive practices.
Notice how Aston Villa, Sunderland, Everton, Athletic Bilbao, Genoa, Pro Vercelli, Nurnberg, Shalke etc. - who were each country’s top clubs before almost all of the Cartel ever became big clubs - never practiced illegal anti-competitive practices to keep themselves at the top, nor did they bring in FFP when the Cartel clubs started their rise to the top.
No, they weren’t as fucking insecure as the cunts in the Cartel.
The Cartel and their FFP have further ruined football because it stops other clubs - like Newcastle, for example, who could go on a 1950s-60s spending spree like Liverpool did or a 1980s-90s spending spree like United did before their eras of big sustained success - from investing to succeed like the Cartel or any other business in the world had done in the past.
Now everyone has to follow an FFP system that hinders any future growth for clubs with great potential for the simple fact that the cunts in the Cartel couldn’t face the fact or understand the fact that nothing lasts forever.
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Are Manchester City ruining football. Dominating the league in an unprecedented manner. Of course we are.
Aston Villa 1893-1899 - 5 titles out of 7 possible. Not ruining football.
Arsenal 1930-1934 - 4 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Liverpool 1975-1983 - 7 out of 9. Not ruining football.
Liverpool 1985-89 - 3 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Man Utd 1992-2000 - 7 out of 9. Not ruining football.
Chelsea 2004-05 - 2 out of 2. Maybe ruining football.
Man Utd 2006-2010 - 4 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Man City 2011-13 - 2 out of 3. Starting to ruin football.
Man City - 2017-2020 - 3 out of 4. Football ruined forever.
Makes sense to me. Everyone else should stop. This level of domination has clearly never happened before. Give it up. Go home. Seeya.
Aston Villa 1893-1899 - 5 titles out of 7 possible. Not ruining football.
Arsenal 1930-1934 - 4 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Liverpool 1975-1983 - 7 out of 9. Not ruining football.
Liverpool 1985-89 - 3 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Man Utd 1992-2000 - 7 out of 9. Not ruining football.
Chelsea 2004-05 - 2 out of 2. Maybe ruining football.
Man Utd 2006-2010 - 4 out of 5. Not ruining football.
Man City 2011-13 - 2 out of 3. Starting to ruin football.
Man City - 2017-2020 - 3 out of 4. Football ruined forever.
Makes sense to me. Everyone else should stop. This level of domination has clearly never happened before. Give it up. Go home. Seeya.
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Bernardo and Sterling apparently fancied leaving us in the Summer but didn’t end up going. We bought Grealish to replace one or both of them. And who’s to say one or both of them won’t leave next Summer?The talent should be spread across teams, stockpiling players will reduce the competitiveness as these extra players could be a valuable asset in another team. Just because we can buy doesn't mean we should. Keep that money for a position that is needed - a striker or a DM.
And no other clubs try and win every single competition they’re in like we do. The other top clubs don’t try and win the domestic Cups like we do as they prioritise the competitions that make them the most money instead of trying to win everything for the prestige; and the lower clubs don’t try and win the domestic Cups like we do as they prioritise the money earnt from staying up over the prestige of winning trophies.
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