Are expections too high for next season?

No matter what we win next year, if pep is happy im happy. Its a transition, if we win he league which i believe we will, great. But he has to put his plans into place
 
Depends what signings we make, and if we clear out the shit players who are nowhere near good enough.

Navas, Delph, Fernando, Mangala and Kolarov shouldn't be in the team next season. Not even close to good enough.
 
Pep will need some time to impose his ideas on this lot. Can see many going.
Although some might be happy to stay - on good wages - no one else will sign them.
 
i think spurs are favourites going into next season.

they have the least amount of transition to do so with a few to class additions and with an already young squad you would have thought it would be better next season because of this seasons experience.

it's difficult to tell what we will do until we see ourselves post-pre-season and a month or two in the league.

the rebuild that needs to happen at city is something pep hasn't had to go through yet i don't think, not only that but tactically he is so demanding on his players that we don't know how long it is going to take until his philosophy and ideas are fluently being implemented on the itch.
 
sam-caddick said:
i think spurs are favourites going into next season.

they have the least amount of transition to do so with a few to class additions and with an already young squad you would have thought it would be better next season because of this seasons experience.

it's difficult to tell what we will do until we see ourselves post-pre-season and a month or two in the league.

the rebuild that needs to happen at city is something pep hasn't had to go through yet i don't think, not only that but tactically he is so demanding on his players that we don't know how long it is going to take until his philosophy and ideas are fluently being implemented on the itch.
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That sounds very much like a case of getting pep's excuses in early.

Apologies if that's not how you meant it.

For me it's really simple..

A great squad (every match day thread tells us we have the best squad and we haven't won the league because the manager is shit), plus several millions spent in the summer (we will be the best placed team in England to recruit targets with an unlimited budget and the most famous manager in the world), plus the greatest manager ever taking charge should equal a big improvement in this season, AND we are unlikley to suffer the amount of injuries to key players next season either so realistically we should be red red hot favourites for the league. This current squad finished 1st, 2nd, and probably 3rd in last 3 years so for the reasons above anything other than a title is a failure in my eyes next year.

Last 4 of ecl to keep pace with this season isn't unreasonable, and neither is a cup win to also keep pace with this season.

A top 4 placing and last 8 Or worse in ecl and no cup wins at home would be huge regression on this season when 80-90% of posters reckon, many times vociferously, we have been shit and under achieved.
 
Pep has to win every domestic cup and title next season, and also the La Liga/Bundesliga/Serie A's titles and cups.

If not, he's a flop, and I will burn an effigy of him.
 
I'll be happy to just see some kind of plan implemented on the pitch instead of watching 11 blokes playing like they've never met each other until 10 minutes before kick off.
Anything else is a bonus.
 
He needs atleast 2 summer transfer windows to shape his team and get it playing in the Pep way.
 
stablemcfc said:
Still many factors to weigh into what we can expect next season. Will we even be in the CL next season? Will we have got our transfer targets? If we are in CL we'll be pot 2 & could get Barcelona and another group of death. Who will our rivals bring in (players/managers)?

I'm certainly not expecting the world from Pep in his first season as I feel it will be a fairly transitional season from old guard to new guard, all I hope for is an improvement tactically & off the ball.
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couldn't agree more. Can see it taking the best part of a season to get our defence sorted out.
 
You only have to study the way that Klopp has transformed a shapeless, clueless outfit into a highly motivated vibrant, dynamic fighting machine,to realise that we don't need a desperate fire sale.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
You only have to study the way that Klopp has transformed a shapeless, clueless outfit into a highly motivated vibrant, dynamic fighting machine,to realise that we don't need a desperate fire sale.
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Not really true though. He inherited a very young side. Pep is inheriting the opposite. We need new blood and we need to ship out the complacent and the past it players in our squad.
 
BillyShears said:
Not really true though. He inherited a very young side. Pep is inheriting the opposite. We need new blood and we need to ship out the complacent and the past it players in our squad.
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I agree about the complacency, but I was thinking more of players like Navas, Sterling, Delph, and Fernando, who could all thrive, if given specific coaching demands.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I agree about the complacency, but I was thinking more of players like Navas, Sterling, Delph, and Fernando, who could all thrive, if given specific coaching demands.
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I think there's some very basic technical requirements that you need to have to thrive under Pep. With the exception of Raheem not sure the others have them.

The job Klopp has done is exceptional btw.
 
It's simple - minimum requirement is 40 points. Nothing more and nothing less. Well perhaps have 40 before the last game of the season.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
You cant compare. The spine of Klopp's team was not ageing and a bit stale. And we need new fullbacks urgently
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I saw Milner cross with his left foot, more times in midweek, than his whole City career put together. Coincidence or confidence?
Sure, we've got an ageing nucleus, but there's also a few of our younger players, who need guidance and motivation.
 
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