Are foriegn imports ruinning our national team ?

They can help to a certain extent.

I think Italy had it right when each side used to have two top class foreigners and the rest Italian.

Some of the great Liverpool sides played with no English players whatsoever so it isn't that new, they just come from further away now.
 
mct said:
lancs blue said:
Nope. There just aren't enough top quality young English players coming through the system.
soz i disagree,there are plenty out there but all the big clubs choose to buy them in ,instant sucsess is now the norm.

City have had one of the best Academies going for the last 12 years, and while SWP, Micah, Ned and others have been good products from the club's point of view none of them are quite good enough for the top level. If the best Academies can't produce enough top class players that suggests the talent isn't actually out there at the moment. In fact I'd say the shortage of top class young English players is one reason for the number of foreign imports in the Prem.
 
No.This is a much peddled myth. If it was true, we'd have the finest Championship and League 1 players in the world for the following reason; Don't know about you but if i had any footballing talent at all and could earn £50K a year doing it, I'd be doing it. In fact, I'd probably do it for £25k a year and sod teh fact that "it's a short career", I'd do something else afterwards.

Given the fact that in the Championship you can earn in excess of £100,000 a year and in League 1, £50k a year, any decent English player edged out of the Premier league by foreign players would be plying their trade down there. If they were good enough they would soon be spotted and picked up by premier league clubs. But they aren't there. That means that the talent isn't coming through at all.

We could debate the reasons for that forever but I reckon it's due to the death of school football and the rise of Charlie Hughes and Howard Wilkinson's shite training methods in the 80s and which still, I think, influence todays thinking. Furthermore, the demise of schools football means that junior football has ceased to be competitive with all the best players clustering at certain teams with the result that the lesser teams are on a constant downward spiral until they fold. The knock on effect is uncompetitive diminishing leagues.

Throw in the Health and Safety shite and it's no wonder the English game is on its arse.
 
lancs blue said:
mct said:
soz i disagree,there are plenty out there but all the big clubs choose to buy them in ,instant sucsess is now the norm.

City have had one of the best Academies going for the last 12 years, and while SWP, Micah, Ned and others have been good products from the club's point of view none of them are quite good enough for the top level. If the best Academies can't produce enough top class players that suggests the talent isn't actually out there at the moment. In fact I'd say the shortage of top class young English players is one reason for the number of foreign imports in the Prem.
Good point ,so maybe academies are`nt being funded (except man citys) because clubs are spending to much money on imports
 
Foriegn imports have improved our national team and national league.

It's the method of coaching and the English view of how the game is played that is stopping this country from winning major tournaments. We are behind the likes of Croatia, Mexico and even Uruguay (a country of 3million) in techinal ability. That's sad.
 
lancs blue said:
Nope. There just aren't enough top quality young English players coming through the system.

This. And it's the system that's at fault, not the imports.
 
mct said:
lancs blue said:
City have had one of the best Academies going for the last 12 years, and while SWP, Micah, Ned and others have been good products from the club's point of view none of them are quite good enough for the top level. If the best Academies can't produce enough top class players that suggests the talent isn't actually out there at the moment. In fact I'd say the shortage of top class young English players is one reason for the number of foreign imports in the Prem.
Good point ,so maybe academies are`nt being funded (except man citys) because clubs are spending to much money on imports

If Gerrard (Liverpool academy), Lampard, Ashley Cole (both West Ham), Rooney (Everton) can make it to the top at Sky 4 clubs then underfunding doesn't seem much of an issue. There isn't some glass ceiling stopping talented English youngsters making it as far as I can see. You might have a point if there were some high quality English players "slumming it" at places like Bolton or Stoke because they couldn't get a move to a top 4 club but that isn't happening.
 
English youngsters compete with the entire world in the top division or two of their own leagues due to wages being higher.

No other league has this problem, they may have a few top clubs doing it, but not the Wigan, Hull and West Broms.
 

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