Are we ( English fans ) an embarrassment nowadays

We City fans weren't an embarrassment in Rotterdam and i'm sure there are plenty of English fans that go abroad
to watch the football and lap up a bit of culture. To tar everybody with the same brush is what got total innocents
battered back in the bad old days.
 
If you're on about the fans still looking for a scrap then yes they're an embarrassment. Can't fault the English attendances however.

Total attendance for the 2016/17 season:
Premier League - 13,612,316
Bundesliga - 12,702,427

Football League Championship - 11,105,922
La Liga - 10,470,781
Why does the Bundesliga having a higher average attendance prove anything?
 
I think it is the ones doing it that are the mugs. Yes Russia your only 30 years to fucking late for English footy violence. When you stay teetotal and go to mma gyms just to train to fight footy fans i think you have to much free time on your hands.

If some bugger starts i'll lash out first no worries but only if that is the case and some bugger is not gonna let it go because he is coked up or something. I would like to have a pint with oppo fans and hear their views tbh, not thump the buggers or indeed get thumped myself.
 
Why does the Bundesliga having a higher average attendance prove anything?

Sorry, my point isn't clear in that post. I was pointing out that our top 2 leagues (not just the premier league) are among the top 3/4 attended in Europe.
 
Well to be fair, if aimlessly throwing plastic patio chairs and then waving your arms in the air as if to say 'come and have a go' while walking backwards wearing flip flops is the definition of being hard, they would shit Chuck Norris

I always thought that an England's football hooligans hardness was measured by how far they they could throw a plastic patio chair. I once saw a hooligan during Espanya 82 who was that hard he could even throw the matching patio table.
 
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Not in the way you think it is. The brits abroad mentality of getting hammered and the fall out that comes with it is an embarrassment. English fans live in a viscous circle of behaving like animals and getting treated like animals.
It's a sticky mess they're in, that's for sure!
 
I think any football fan who goes out to have a fight at the match is an absolute embarrassment. You see them on the news at England away games with their tops off, beer bellies out, caps on and tattoos everywhere with their arms outstretched thinking its some sort of invasion and I just look at them and think what a bunch of utter wank stains you are.

Yep well said. I notice more it's blokes in there 40's and 50's rather than the younger generation - hopefully the old school Danny dyers will f*ck off and let the new generation go to football to enjoy the football and nothing else
 

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