Are we over rated?

[supercrystal7]

Overrated depends on who you are comparing them too. The first 11 is still not as good as Bayern's or Madrid's, but is now around the same level as Dortmund's, PSG's and Barca's.

The weak squad argument was true in my opinion until this season. The reason United could compete with you is that they had a weaker first 11, but a superior squad. Not so now.

To put things in context just compare your squad with Chelsea's who are your biggest rivals for the league.


Strikers

Aguero/Negredo/Jovetic/Dzeko

Torres/Etoo/Ba


For me it's fairly clear every single one of your strikers are better than Chelsea's best striker.

Wingers/Playmakers

Silva, Nasri, Milner, Navas

Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle, Willian, Salah

Like with the strikers slight difference in that you play 2 where as Chelsea play 3. Chelsea have more quality for me here and the greater depth.

Central Midfielder

Toure, Fernandinho, Garcia, Rodwell

Matic, Ramires, Lampard, Mikel

Chelsea have less quality, but more depth. I would trust Lampard and Mikel over Rodwell and Garcia.

Full Backs

Ivanovic, Cesar, Cole

Zabaleta, Kolarov, Clichy, Richards

Once more you have more depth and more quality.

Centre Backs

Terry, Cahill, Luiz

Kompany, Demichelis, Lescott, Nastacic

Once more the quality of the first 11 is about the same, but you have more depth.

Goalkeepers

Hart, Pantilimon

Cech, Schwarzer

Chelsea have more quality and better depth.

Obviously some players like Milner, Luiz, Yaya, Richards, Cesar etc can play more than one position but that is where they play the majority of the time.

City currently have greater depth and quality than Chelsea and anyone else in the league. In terms of quality and depth for me it goes. City>Chelsea>United/Arsenal

EDIT

At the end of the day you could lose to Barca, Chelsea beat Galatasary and get another hard team. If Chelsea get through and get a hard quarter final I would put you back as favourites now you are out of the FA Cup and maybe the CL. Fixtures and luck are part of football. With a bit of luck you win the league and a cup, which is an unbelievable season for anyone.

 

[Damocles]

Good and fair assessment there supercrystal7, can't argue with much of that

 

[smileyriley2]

Knee-jerk mania on here

this! ffs!

 

[6one]

Chelsea are stronger in centre midfield.

We have yaya and fernandinho and nothing else.

Chelsea have 4/5 players who can play there.
Also stronger defensively.<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:03 pm --<br /><br />We are accused of:

"city are not good defensively, it's their weak link"

and

"city will have failed if they don't win, they have best squad"


both cant be true

 

[Gillespie]

You sound like a twat.

I'm more than happy with 1, possibly 2 trophies this season and my whole point is that others sound like spoilt rags.

What would make me happy is if fans of other clubs wound their necks in and kept their accusations to themselves.

I suppose I inhabit a different planet being an Arsenal fan thinking 1 trophy after a 9 year drought would be nice.

My expectations are clearly somewhat less than yours.

I don't have any expectations.

I'm one of those on here who is derided for just enjoying the ride of being a great team rather than obsessing over trophy counts.

As an Arsenal fan your lack of trophies is the least of your problems.

Never thought I'd see the day an Arsenal fan tried to play the 'I'm a realer fan than you' card.

You move on now boy with your holy expectations of nothing more than 4th, I'm too seasoned for you, I'd shit down your throat before you'd got your southern hands out of your farrah slacks.

Do you have to be so abusive?

Where did I suggest I was a 'realer fan' than you (whatever that means)?

It seems to me that you have been on the laughing juice which means your comments should be viewed in that light, namely without any merit and so it's best if I ignore your 'contributions' in future.

 

[Santiago Street]

Nothing that you see or hear on telly is worth listening to. Pundits necessarily deal in the here and now so everything is exaggerated to the nth degree. So when all those mugs were talking about us in reverential terms as one of the world's best teams, sensible City fans knew better.

Cup wins or cup losses are irrelevant. Anything can happen on any given day. The league table is where a realistic appraisal of a team's strength is to be found. The facts don't lie. For the whole season we've either been behind in the league or closely contesting the lead with Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea who themselves aren't outstanding teams. Therefore we're not a great team and not even a very good one as yet.

 

[Gillespie]

Chelsea are stronger in centre midfield.

We have yaya and fernandinho and nothing else.

Chelsea have 4/5 players who can play there.
Also stronger defensively.

-- Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:03 pm --

We are accused of:

"city are not good defensively, it's their weak link"

and

"city will have failed if they don't win, they have best squad"


both cant be true

Jesus!

 

[Damocles]

Therefore we're not a great team and not even a very good one as yet.

True, we fluked all of those trophies and Champions League finishes

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Do you have to be so abusive?

Where did I suggest I was a 'realer fan' than you (whatever that means)?

It seems to me that you have been on the laughing juice which means your comments should be viewed in that light, namely without any merit and so it's best if I ignore your 'contributions' in future.

I'm not being abusive. If I offend you it's you who has the problem.

You compared me to a rag and then get uppity when I pull you up on it.

I'm never sober by the way.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Good and fair assessment there supercrystal7, can't argue with much of that

Apart from he has missed Azpilicueta from the full backs and as a group they are clearly better than ours. Kolorov has been ok this season but Richards and clichy are shite