Are You Officially Priced Out Yet, Or Almost?

Petrovs left peg said:
Not sure I quite get your last point. Are you saying that if I had to give up my £1,000 / week betting luxury (made up) to watch City then i've been priced out?

No. You could be a billionaire and be priced out by increases in prices. Seems as though we differ on the definition but for me it's more about value for money rather than affordability. The second the price rises above the limit that you consider it value for money you have been priced out IMO.
 
moomba said:
Petrovs left peg said:
Not sure I quite get your last point. Are you saying that if I had to give up my £1,000 / week betting luxury (made up) to watch City then i've been priced out?

No. You could be a billionaire and be priced out by increases in prices. Seems as though we differ on the definition but for me it's more about value for money rather than affordability. The second the price rises above the limit that you consider it value for money you have been priced out IMO.

Respect your opinion.

It was the majority of responses that were along the lines of "cant afford" that led me that way. TBH if someone doesn't think the £28/match on a season ticket is value then I would be surprised. Individual match ticket pricing needs to reflect significant value for season tickets, and in a way subsidise them, so I'm not sure how the club gets around it - How many tickets are for match day sales only? 8,000?
 
moomba said:
Petrovs left peg said:
Not sure I quite get your last point. Are you saying that if I had to give up my £1,000 / week betting luxury (made up) to watch City then i've been priced out?

No. You could be a billionaire and be priced out by increases in prices. Seems as though we differ on the definition but for me it's more about value for money rather than affordability. The second the price rises above the limit that you consider it value for money you have been priced out IMO.

I agree.

Seasoncards generally still offer good value in my opinion. £57 to watch us against liverpo or £62 to watch us at the emirates doesn't.

Paying admin fees or handling fees on already extortionate champions league final tickets won't either. Too many seem to be taking peoples opinions a bit too personally, jumping to the defence of what I consider indefensible.

It's clear that there's a problem, it's also clear that there are many that will choose not to follow city as much as they once did because they feel it's just not offering value when all is considered.

There are factors tho that aren't in the control of city which I've mentioned already. However, were talking about a multi billion pound industry, surely making it reasonably priced can be done if the leagues/uefa/FIFA or whoever wanted.

There are a lot of positives that city have done and are doing but being involved in a hideous pricing system that for me clearly exploits fans isn't one.
 
Petrovs left peg said:
moomba said:
Petrovs left peg said:
Not sure I quite get your last point. Are you saying that if I had to give up my £1,000 / week betting luxury (made up) to watch City then i've been priced out?

No. You could be a billionaire and be priced out by increases in prices. Seems as though we differ on the definition but for me it's more about value for money rather than affordability. The second the price rises above the limit that you consider it value for money you have been priced out IMO.

Respect your opinion.

It was the majority of responses that were along the lines of "cant afford" that led me that way. TBH if someone doesn't think the £28/match on a season ticket is value then I would be surprised. Individual match ticket pricing needs to reflect significant value for season tickets, and in a way subsidise them, so I'm not sure how the club gets around it - How many tickets are for match day sales only? 8,000?


To be fair, there are only so many season tickets available at £28. Go right up to £40+ a game now.
 
A lot of people defending City on this are changing their parameters as time goes on.

None of those claiming that you have to weigh it against the quality of football on offer (i.e. good football, I will be willing to pay a lot more) care to answer whether they held that view when City were shit - yet charging the highest prices in the lower divisions - and therefore fucked City off because they were not meeting the success/cost criteria. They won't answer this because the logical conclusion of this is that they will fuck City off if the standard of football isn't good enough and they know what type of supporter that makes them look like (and I suspect a lot of them know they wouldn't/didn't fuck City off and therefore it makes a mockery of their cost/success analysis).

Another bizarre change of view, that has only been taken on by some in recent years is the analysis of how a 19th of a season ticket is the way to determine good value.

A season ticket has always been a trade off between club and fan. The fan guarantees attendance, the club, in return, reduces somewhat the amount that is paid for entrance to the game. Therefore, 1/19th of a season ticket has never, in any way, represented the normal price of a ticket.

Yet now we have people claiming that 30 odd quid, 1/19th of their season ticket, represents, just about, a fair price of a one off ticket, therefore season tickets are good value. But they are confusing two different things. They are comparing 1/19th of a season ticket as if it is the price of a single match ticket. It isn't! It is, and should be treated as, a significantly discounted match ticket. Therefore, all this "I think £35 quid for a match is fine" is absolutely irrelevant if you are talking about 1/19th of your season ticket.

If you are judging the price of a season ticket, judge it as it has always been, for 50 years. 1/19th of a season ticket is a heavily discounted match day ticket. So when you discuss your "1/19th of my season ticket is £35 and that is just about ok for entrance to a match" know that what you are really saying is that "£35 is a heavily discounted match day ticket price and therefore, I think that the normal price - significantly more than £35 - is fair and the correct way to treat fans"
 
How can anyone be priced out?

A season ticket at City is about £11 per week, with the correct planning and less time in the pub people could afford to get one especially now there is greater availability.

The individual match tickets should now only be used for tourists rather than 'local' City fans.

I agree the club has a responsibility to monitor prices but fans also have a responsibility to arrange their finances in a way that they can afford things in life. If you want a ticket you'll get one saving money isn't difficult if you really want to.
 
Plenty of piss pots on this thread too, who assume that most people's social life and disposable income revolves around some shithole local pub and that most of their finances are pouted down their neck.
 
kiam06 said:
How can anyone be priced out?

A season ticket at City is about £11 per week, with the correct planning and less time in the pub people could afford to get one especially now there is greater availability.

The individual match tickets should now only be used for tourists rather than 'local' City fans.

I agree the club has a responsibility to monitor prices but fans also have a responsibility to arrange their finances in a way that they can afford things in life. If you want a ticket you'll get one saving money isn't difficult if you really want to.

How can anyone be priced out? There are fans that have been sat in their seats in east & Colin bell stands long before we became successful. These fans have seen huge increaes in the price of their seats.

I think you saying saving money isn't difficult is a bit of a generalisation and also very naive too.

Yes you can move and I would if I was one of them but surely by moving you've been priced out.
 
kiam06 said:
How can anyone be priced out?

A season ticket at City is about £11 per week, with the correct planning and less time in the pub people could afford to get one especially now there is greater availability.

The individual match tickets should now only be used for tourists rather than 'local' City fans.

I agree the club has a responsibility to monitor prices but fans also have a responsibility to arrange their finances in a way that they can afford things in life. If you want a ticket you'll get one saving money isn't difficult if you really want to.
Your simplistic view of people's personal finances is quite laughable. Maybe as you get older, get married, have kids, get divorced then pay 15 years csa you will realise that saving a pound a week is fucking hard work for some
 

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