Armed !?

[xgorton]

Cockapoo dog end of my bed,he would lick them to death.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I just thought you were into DIY.

She's been carpeting the walls.

 

[Bigg Bigg Blue]

You need to be very careful about what you have at the side of your bed.
I was once told by a copper that if you have a baseball bat in the bedroom and use it on a burglar it could be classed as a pre meditated attack unless you can prove that you actually do play baseball.

 

[mcfc_ms]

Patterdale terrier on end of bed.

Our neighbours got burgled once while they were away and our Patterdale was going mad in the garden growling and barking at the burglars using our garden to access next door.

We just thought she was barking at nothing like usual until another neighbour knocked on a few hours later and said their cars had been nicked

 

[mancityvstoke]

You need to be very careful about what you have at the side of your bed.
I was once told by a copper that if you have a baseball bat in the bedroom and use it on a burglar it could be classed as a pre meditated attack unless you can prove that you actually do play baseball.

You need balls for that

 

[FantasyIreland]

You need to be very careful about what you have at the side of your bed.
I was once told by a copper that if you have a baseball bat in the bedroom and use it on a burglar it could be classed as a pre meditated attack unless you can prove that you actually do play baseball.

Id be more than happy to face a court if i meant i protected my family.which i would.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You need to be very careful about what you have at the side of your bed.
I was once told by a copper that if you have a baseball bat in the bedroom and use it on a burglar it could be classed as a pre meditated attack unless you can prove that you actually do play baseball.

This seems to be incorrect. Unless you use tools that you have around the house then any use of weapons for self-defence would be a premeditated crime. Self-defence if valid is a complete defence to such an act anyway.

Home owners are legally allowed to defend themselves as long as they honestly perceive a threat and it was reasonable to take that cause of action.

An intruder coming into your bedroom would be one, and let's be honest you wouldn't know if it was a burglar or a rapist.

What homeowners are not allowed to do is to give chase and batter someone running away, although they can give chase and perform a citizens arrest (they risk being arrested themselves or sued, if they cause injury/use disproportionate violence). And you can't continue to use violence when there is no threat, i. e. no battering someone senseless or "mercy kills" .

I think what the cop was actually trying to do was deter people from keeping potentially offensive weapons in their home and was being flexible with the truth to achieve this aim.

• Premeditated violence: the extent to which the accused found themselves unexpectedly confronted by a violent situation, as opposed to having planned and armed themselves in the expectation of a violent situation.

Above is extract of legal guidance from CPS.

Self-Defence and the Prevention of Crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

Seems to be aimed at preventing drug dealers and criminal gangs from arming themselves to the teeth in anticipation of violence and relying on self-defence to get them off.

It’s not going to stop a householder from being able to use the legal defence after defending themselves when living in an area with prolific burglars or rapist intruders.


If anyone would like to use mantraps in their house instead:

Mantrap (snare) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Since 1827, they have been illegal in England, except in houses between sunset and sunrise as a defence against burglars.

 

[mancityvstoke]

This seems to be incorrect. Unless you use tools that you have around the house then any use of weapons for self-defence would be a premeditated crime. Self-defence if valid is a complete defence to such an act anyway.

Home owners are legally allowed to defend themselves as long as they honestly perceive a threat and it was reasonable to take that cause of action.

An intruder coming into your bedroom would be one, and let's be honest you wouldn't know if it was a burglar or a rapist.

What homeowners are not allowed to do is to give chase and batter someone running away, although they can give chase and perform a citizens arrest (they risk being arrested themselves or sued, if they cause injury/use disproportionate violence). And you can't continue to use violence when there is no threat, i. e. no battering someone senseless or "mercy kills" .

I think what the cop was actually trying to do was deter people from keeping potentially offensive weapons in their home and twisting the truth to achieve this aim.

If anyone would like to use mantraps in their house instead:

Mantrap (snare) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Since 1827, they have been illegal in England, except in houses between sunset and sunrise as a defence against burglars.

Knowing my luck I'd set that trap and fucking forget.....

 

[stonerblue]

Our neighbours got burgled once while they were away and our Patterdale was going mad in the garden growling and barking at the burglars using our garden to access next door.

We just thought she was barking at nothing like usual until another neighbour knocked on a few hours later and said their cars had been nicked

Cracking little guard dog and would deffo go for an intruder.

 

[stonerblue]

Knowing my luck I'd set that trap and fucking forget.....

just a touch more painfull than stubbing your little toe on the bed leg.