Arsenal fans celebrations.....

[Lucky13]

Arsenal fans celebrating? Whatever next?

if you can't handle losing a game and a bit of banter, then football is not your game

Agreed , but there's no need for the racial overtones in the gooners post.

 

[jimharri]

Of course, if we'd bothered to actually turn up and put in a performance, the Arsenal fans wouldn't have had anything to crow about. Hey ho.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Doesn't matter, I think Nasri got it spot on on twitter...


"I'm aware what i said about titles and i'm sure i will lift a trophy with Man City before AFC"

 

[blueju]

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[gooner6729]

We would've done exactly the same in their position. We are a scalp now and we need to man up and face it head on

Your spot on. Arsenal deserved to beat us and their fans have evey right to celebrate. Its just the saddo element of their support who seem to think that they are somehow more morally better than us that grates. One of the biggest reason for the inequality of finance in the premier league is this idea that the top 4 get so much more money than the others. Something which Arsenal whilst never winning it have taken full advantage of.

Sorry to correct you here, but we have won the Premier League 3 times.

You have a point about the inequality in finance, but that goes back a lot further than the Premier League. There used to be the self styled big 5 (Liverpool, Everton, United,Spurs and Arsenal). Those clubs were wealthier than the rest for a variety of reasons, but not to the extent that clubs like Forest,West Ham,Derby or Villa couldn't build competitive teams.

Even though I support one of the original big clubs I think the Premiership and Sky have done more bad than good for the English game as a whole.

What I can't understand is when City or Chelski fans use it as a moral justification for what they have done since their respective takeovers. Mansour and Abramovich have made it even more of an impossibility for the majority of clubs to enjoy any degree of success.

The emergence of City and Chelski hasn't really hurt United or Arsenal. United still win stuff and we are still up there. What the Arab and the Russian did kill is any remaining aspirations the rest of the clubs in the league had. They have also caused wage inflation which has been fed down into ticket prices at the expense of all football fans.

 

[Marvin]

Arsenal fans celebrating? Whatever next?

if you can't handle losing a game and a bit of banter, then football is not your game

Agreed , but there's no need for the racial overtones in the gooners post.

Agreed.

But we started the topic with "Arsenal fans celebrations". I'd be offended if they didn't celebrate beating us.

 

[Joga Bonito]

"Money can't buy class Arsenal Forever" Banner

Exhibit A:

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The Arab at City has more of a long term plan than the Russian crook at Chelski did.

Not a good start. How about your former criminal, Uzbek part-owner who is closely associated with a vicious human right abuser? And your clueless majority shareholder whose money comes from marrying into Walmart? Still, let's gloss over that.

He won't be able to subsidise the team to the same extent once FFP kicks in, but they are building an infrastructure. That should keep them competitive, but personally I can't see how it will be enough to keep up with Arsenal and United in the long run.

I would be interested to hear from City fans with a good knowledge of the plans how this is supposed to be achieved. I know about the Etihad sponsorship deal, and I think City will get away with UEFA's investigation into it. The Qatar World Cup shows that FIFA/UEFA will bow down to Arab cash,but in the long term I cannot see them getting away with stuff like that.

You clearly don't understand either FFP and what the owners are trying to do. They are building an infrastructure and are putting in place business plans that see us become self-sustaining in a few years. So you're right that the Sheikh can't subsidise us. However, the increase in revenue from regular CL football plus the increased commercial income that will bring, should at least double our income over the next 3-4 years. Plus the amortisation charge on players, our second biggest expense after wages, will decrease significantly in that period, even with a reasonable net spend. The wages will also level off, at a slightly lower level than they are currently (maybe £25-30m). There's going to be a big kit deal announced shortly I understand. We'll still show losses for the first two FFP periods but the available offsets should see us through. By then, we should be home and dry financially.

UEFA cannot investigate the Etihad deal in the way people seem to think. I'm not wasting time going into the detail for someone who uses the term "the Arab" but it's all about accounting disclosures of related party trransactions. Basically, if Etihad were considered a related party, according to the accounting definition, then it would have been declared in the accounts by now and it hasn't.

As for competing with Arsenal, what exactly are we competing with? Your massive trophy haul over the last few seasons? You looked like missing out on top 4 this season and it's still not guaranteed (although you'd have to have a collapse like last season to lose out now). We'll finish above you for the second season running and we've barely started.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Arsenal; City's feeder club.

 

[Revolver]

Arsenal fans celebrating? Whatever next?

if you can't handle losing a game and a bit of banter, then football is not your game

Agreed , but there's no need for the racial overtones in the gooners post.

Arsenal won fair and square and their fans have every right to gloat at our expense. However on a City forum if their fans are patronising us and being derogatory about our owners then we are entitled to respond.

But you are right about being able to cope with losing a game. Sadly as City fans we have had a lot practice.