Arsenal (H) Post Match Thread

mekonmcfc said:
agreed, Its been nice to be almost able to name his starting 11 (unlike last season) however we do have quality on the bench. Gundogan is quality on the ball, dont forget a long lay off and B Silva will improve as he gets used to the physicality of the prem. Danilo is a great addition to come in and we still have Kompany and Mendy missing
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All of those players are class imo, but I'm just making the point that the 'first 11' is (almost) a perfect blend at the moment.

It isn't proven that if KDB misses 5 games & is replaced by Gundo or Bernardo, that we reach the same level. We might do, or be better in a different way, but it's still an 'unknown'.
 
mekonmcfc said:
We have become something very special, and the beauty is we can bring 5/6 players into the team and they don't weaken us. Looking very strong with an amazing spirit
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Neville Kneville said:
But who is Gundogan equal to or better than, as a direct replacement out of the 11 who played v Arsenal ? Imo, nobody.
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Reads that you don't rate gundogan as an elite footballer. I find that surprising.
 
adrianr said:
I think it's quite important now to start getting some minutes for the likes of Bernado and Gundogan. Obviously cracking players but will still need time to integrate into the team, get used to how players play, etc. Every time we drop them in for KDB or Silva we're going to get a bit of a drop off in performance. Nothing against them just the realities of not playing as much.

And for all the talk of Sanchez in January I really would love proper cover for Fern. That guy has really put the miles in for us over the seasons and even the fittest players will drop off.
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Yes i think Gundogan can do thats once fully fit, although long term cover is needed
 
Neville Kneville said:
All of those players are class imo, but I'm just making the point that the 'first 11' is (almost) a perfect blend at the moment.

It isn't proven that if KDB misses 5 games & is replaced by Gundo or Bernardo, that we reach the same level. We might do, or be better in a different way, but it's still an 'unknown'.
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Yes completely agree, my point being we are actually replacing class with class these days, and not many clubs have that luxury. The starting 11 is flying at present, KDB looked a little tired 2nd half, so its nice to bring him off and replace with a competent performer. There are not many players in the world that can replace KDB like for like at the moment.
 
mekonmcfc said:
Yes completely agree, my point being we are actually replacing class with class these days, and not many clubs have that luxury. The starting 11 is flying at present, KDB looked a little tired 2nd half, so its nice to bring him off and replace with a competent performer. There are not many players in the world that can replace KDB like for like at the moment.
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No there aren't.

But it might be the case of course, that a City team with a slightly different formation, is just as good, in a different way. Barca or Bayern didn't have a KDB.

We will probably find out soon, as the cup games become more intrusive.
 
Neville Kneville said:
No there aren't.

But it might be the case of course, that a City team with a slightly different formation, is just as good, in a different way. Barca or Bayern didn't have a KDB.

We will probably find out soon, as the cup games become more intrusive.
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yes the big games are the 2 in December where we need a fully fit starting 11. If we can keep going until then and take at least 4 points from Spuds and Rags we will be sitting very pretty.
 
The great thing about the win yesterday is that we we leggy after the champions league and still managed a comfortable (for the most part) 3-1 against a top 6 side. Bodes very well.
 
We looked comfortable for the majority of the game. Defended within ourselves. Any chances coughed up were down to us making mistakes. They defended superbly and rode their luck. Only for some excellent last ditch interceptions and tackles we'd have demolished them. Their defenders earned a wage yesterday. Zero protection from midfield. Ozil is a shit bag.
 
Vic said:
If you did bother to know the offside rule, you'd know there's no ambiguity, no open to interpretation, no benefit of doubt to the attacker. It was offside, just less obvious than we thought at the time.
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Was it though? I've freeze-framed it at the point I think Fernandinho actually touches the ball for the pass to Silva and it suggests he's level:

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We looked tired, we were a bit sloppy especially at key moments and out two centre halves were too far apart too often yesterday.

Other than that we bossed the game and still won quite easily against a top6 side.

Imagine when we’re fresh and playing well...
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Was it though? I've freeze-framed it at the point I think Fernandinho actually touches the ball for the pass to Silva and it suggests he's level:

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...and in fairness to the linesman he is in exactly the right position and looking across the pitch. After countless replays my opinion has moved from “miles” to “just” off. The Lino doesn’t have that luxury and in addition has to watch two things - when the pass is played and, Silva’s position at that moment. Mistkes, if indeed it was, will happen. I’m not even sure VAR would resolve ones that tight since it still comes down to human perception.
 
TCIB said:
You hear it often but we have to say it really is ours to lose now. I love how we take it one game at a time with a nod maybe to the match ahead. Just keep at it and one day there are no more games and some chap is handing your captain trophies. Obviously that is not something tangible but that is the feeling i get from the squad, how we play, how they talk etc.

I was interested to hear Napoli's match report and alas they got a draw away 0-0 against Chievo and from reports were totally knackered so could not deliver the killer blow. I look at us then doing the next best footballing team, well supposedly, in the league and the perspective is pretty damn good hehe.

Here is Napoli's match report if your interested boss...

http://napolifootball.com/2017/11/05/chievo-0-0-napoli-match-reaction-player-ratings/
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That's a good read. Cheers.
 
Dribble said:
I thought Sanchez played well today & rarely lost the ball. He wasn't able to effect the result, but that was more about City than how he played imo.

If we do get him, he'll be a welcome addition to an already impressive squad.
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Disagree m8. Thought he was very wasteful at times and wasn't overly impressed with his piss poor attitude, sulking around and throwing his arms about.
 
Chippy_boy said:
He's not a direct replacement for anyone, but he brings as much quality to the team as pretty much anyone bar KDB imo.
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He's a direct replacement for KDB, they're just slightly different styles of player. Both carry the ball forwards quickly, KDB tends to do this by passing forwards, Gundogan takes it himself and is a better dribbler.

We haven't seen the real Gundogan yet, it's there, he's shown he's still got the burst of pace to beat a man despite the injuries, he just needs more game time to get swinging, and at that point he'll be just as good as KDB & Silva, while offering something slightly different. At that point we will have a midfield only rivalled by Madrid's Casemiro/Mordic/Kroos/Isco.

I've said it before but this team is only going to get better, Gundogan and Bernardo haven't come in to form yet, Jesus has been a little quiet recently, and Kompany will come back.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Was it though? I've freeze-framed it at the point I think Fernandinho actually touches the ball for the pass to Silva and it suggests he's level:

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And don't the rules say the benefit of doubt goes to the attacking player? In which case the lino (sorry; assistant ref) got it bang on.
 
domalino said:
He's a direct replacement for KDB, they're just slightly different styles of player. Both carry the ball forwards quickly, KDB tends to do this by passing forwards, Gundogan takes it himself and is a better dribbler.

We haven't seen the real Gundogan yet, it's there, he's shown he's still got the burst of pace to beat a man despite the injuries, he just needs more game time to get swinging, and at that point he'll be just as good as KDB & Silva, while offering something slightly different. At that point we will have a midfield only rivalled by Madrid's Casemiro/Mordic/Kroos/Isco.

I've said it before but this team is only going to get better, Gundogan and Bernardo haven't come in to form yet, Jesus has been a little quiet recently, and Kompany will come back.
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Don't forget Mendy will add another dimension in attack when he finally comes back. It's amazing to think there's potentially much more to come from this City team who have already been amazing so far.
 
Even on that still frame, Silva's leg is closer to the Arsenal goal, so he's offside. There are clearer images which show it.

But we can see the lino, trying to figure out the exact position of the Arse defender behind Silva (& being in completely the wrong position to do so).

No way he can give offside unless he decides to favour the defending team, which is what they usually do in our games tbf.
 
blue ranger said:
Disagree m8. Thought he was very wasteful at times and wasn't overly impressed with his piss poor attitude, sulking around and throwing his arms about.
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Yep, and yet some folk here think he’d be the signing of the season. Not for me. This team really want to play for each other. Why risk it with a potentially disruptive character?
 
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