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Arsenal thread 2011/12
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leighton
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Re: Arsenal Thread
Mertesacker is a decent signing if it comes off for them. Better signing than Cahill and will be a cheaper option. Dont rule out a move for Scot Dann too this could well also happen the rumours are they have been talking over the last 2 days and a deal could also be done.
BibbyBlue85 said:Ntini77 said:In talks with Mertesacker, and are about to sign Andre Santos & Park Chu-Young, too.
Mertesacker will be a good signing for them. They need someone who can defend set pieces in the air and he fit's the bill.
Mertesacker is a decent signing if it comes off for them. Better signing than Cahill and will be a cheaper option. Dont rule out a move for Scot Dann too this could well also happen the rumours are they have been talking over the last 2 days and a deal could also be done.
persvenality cult
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Re: Arsenal Thread
Mertesacker is an exceptional defender but he's not a 'footballing' centre half like Cahill. More than that, he can't run.
It will mean no more high defensive lines. Frankly that has to be a good thing, they overused this tactic so severely at Old Trafford that it was either the result of complete mental breakdown on Wenger's part or he was teaching his boys a lesson.
It fits with what I saw of them against Newcastle, and at home to Udinese. Wenger appeared to have them playing deep, waiting for the counter attack. It was a noticeable change from last year, when they were often seen camping out in the opponents final third for most of the game, passing it amongst themselves without making the breakthrough into the box often enough. And it makes sense to use the counter attack to unleash the searing pace of Walcott and Gervinho.
But the problem when they played this system against (Newcastle and in the home leg against Udinese) wasn't the defence. It was in the midfield. They seemingly lacked quality. It's actually harder to pass it about quickly and securely, because the gap to the forwards is much bigger. And I don't rate the ball retention of Walcott and Gervinho. And worst of all, they've lost two of the best passers in the league. I really don't know that he has this covered. Wilshire will clearly make a difference but he's still a kid, and I have my doubts over Ramsey.
leighton said:BibbyBlue85 said:Ntini77 said:In talks with Mertesacker, and are about to sign Andre Santos & Park Chu-Young, too.
Mertesacker will be a good signing for them. They need someone who can defend set pieces in the air and he fit's the bill.
Mertesacker is a decent signing if it comes off for them. Better signing than Cahill and will be a cheaper option. Dont rule out a move for Scot Dann too this could well also happen the rumours are they have been talking over the last 2 days and a deal could also be done.
Mertesacker is an exceptional defender but he's not a 'footballing' centre half like Cahill. More than that, he can't run.
It will mean no more high defensive lines. Frankly that has to be a good thing, they overused this tactic so severely at Old Trafford that it was either the result of complete mental breakdown on Wenger's part or he was teaching his boys a lesson.
It fits with what I saw of them against Newcastle, and at home to Udinese. Wenger appeared to have them playing deep, waiting for the counter attack. It was a noticeable change from last year, when they were often seen camping out in the opponents final third for most of the game, passing it amongst themselves without making the breakthrough into the box often enough. And it makes sense to use the counter attack to unleash the searing pace of Walcott and Gervinho.
But the problem when they played this system against (Newcastle and in the home leg against Udinese) wasn't the defence. It was in the midfield. They seemingly lacked quality. It's actually harder to pass it about quickly and securely, because the gap to the forwards is much bigger. And I don't rate the ball retention of Walcott and Gervinho. And worst of all, they've lost two of the best passers in the league. I really don't know that he has this covered. Wilshire will clearly make a difference but he's still a kid, and I have my doubts over Ramsey.
Mayor West
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Re: Arsenal Thread
Mertesacker better than Cahill???
No chance.
Mertesacker better than Cahill???
No chance.
Re: Arsenal Thread
Malicious as hell, but funny as fuck:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/30/the-fiver-arsenal-grimsby-town
Malicious as hell, but funny as fuck:
AS PER NORMAL
It was a great weekend for the Arsenal, who scored two goals at Manchester United in the league for the first time since 1985 and were a Robin van Persie penalty away from the heady heights of notching three, a feat not achieved since 1971. A season-defining performance, and one that allowed Arsene Wenger to slip into a post-match state of serenity: according to reports, he sat in the Old Trafford dressing room after the game in total silence, lost in the moment, staring blankly at the walls, no doubt letting wave after blissful wave of satisfaction crash over him, his wholesale commitment to progressive attacking football having once again been completely vindicated.
This pioneer refuses to stand still, though. Like all the great managers, Wenger can spot minor flaws which the untrained eye of the average punter misses, and to this end is about to improve on perfection with the £10m capture of Per Mertesacker. The 6ft 6in German international is a class act: the captain of Werder Bremen, he was the senior figure in a defence that was one of only four to concede 60 or more goals in last season's Bundesliga. But that's not really the point.
Most important, of course, is Mertesacker's attacking potency: dangerous at set pieces, he's scored 19 Bundesliga goals since his top-flight debut for Hanover in 2003. At nearly 2.4 goals per season, that's a rate not far off established top-class strikers such as Marouanne Chamakh or Nicklas Bendtner. A couple of training sessions with Wenger and this guy will be the new Gerd Muller for sure (although even better, one would assume, as Muller shoddily insisted on taking shots at goal without pausing to consider aesthetics, or whether an attempt could be made to slowly walk the ball into the net instead).
Mertesacker is due to have a medical late this afternoon, though getting an appointment with Arsenal's quack might prove tricky, as most of the squad are camped out in his waiting room hoping to get some of those special boxes of Nurofen Plus that really take the edge off the old central nervous system. The feelgood factor at the Emirates doesn't stop there, either. Striker Park Chu-young of newly-relegated Monaco has already joined today, as will Brazilian full-back Andre Santos, who is all about bombing down the wing and scoring goals and leaving acres of grass behind him, and will be fresh and raring to go having come from Fenerbahce, where he won't have played a competitive game in quite a while. It's a great time to be a Gunner, and it's going to get even better!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/30/the-fiver-arsenal-grimsby-town
SambaStyle
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Re: Arsenal Thread
Check this out, comedy
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread-We-are-the-new-best-passing-side-in-the-Premier-League" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread ... ier-League</a>
Check this out, comedy
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread-We-are-the-new-best-passing-side-in-the-Premier-League" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread ... ier-League</a>
Blue Haze
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Re: Arsenal Thread
So... the most revealing thing about Arsenal came out yesterday.
Arteta had to take a 10k/week pay cut to join Arsenal. Yes, Arsenal cannot even afford to pay Arteta the same wage as Everton, a club known to be in dire financial shape.
Makes me think Arsenal are in much worse shape than anyone imagines.
So... the most revealing thing about Arsenal came out yesterday.
Arteta had to take a 10k/week pay cut to join Arsenal. Yes, Arsenal cannot even afford to pay Arteta the same wage as Everton, a club known to be in dire financial shape.
Makes me think Arsenal are in much worse shape than anyone imagines.
TCIB
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Re: Arsenal Thread
What the fuck have they done with the money ? i mean with Wengers spending habbits and the massive amounts of cash generated on match day, tv rights etc.
Seriously where the hell has it gone ?
What the fuck have they done with the money ? i mean with Wengers spending habbits and the massive amounts of cash generated on match day, tv rights etc.
Seriously where the hell has it gone ?
Blue Haze
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Re: Arsenal Thread
Good question. Fans have cited secret stadium debt.
Also, they are planning to wind up Nasri with this
[bigimg]http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/84/nasrimoney.jpg[/bigimg]
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=31779&sid=21c5e133c49092efa7a7b4f3a0ff2ac6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... f3a0ff2ac6</a>
Because winding up Nasri worked so well for Arry!
Good question. Fans have cited secret stadium debt.
Also, they are planning to wind up Nasri with this
[bigimg]http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/84/nasrimoney.jpg[/bigimg]
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=31779&sid=21c5e133c49092efa7a7b4f3a0ff2ac6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... f3a0ff2ac6</a>
Because winding up Nasri worked so well for Arry!