Arsenal Thread 2014/15

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cookster said:
Kun Aguero said:
cookster said:
But you seem to think so much is right with your post? Title favourites, fuck me!


On the floor or in the bed fella?

Khedira Ramsey
AOC Ozil Sanchez
Walcott

Is as good a front 6 as we or Chelsea can put out, Rosicky,Carzola, Wilshire, Podolski, Giroud, Arteta, Flamini isn't bad too have in reserve.

So when Walcott gets injured, like he does at least twice a season, Giroud gonna score them the goals? Their in a fight with Manure and the Dippers for 4th.
Arsene has only used about 40 out of his 100m chest. We can expect a striket, DM and defensive reinforcements with the rest of that money.
 
The_Mo said:
cookster said:
Kun Aguero said:
On the floor or in the bed fella?

Khedira Ramsey
AOC Ozil Sanchez
Walcott

Is as good a front 6 as we or Chelsea can put out, Rosicky,Carzola, Wilshire, Podolski, Giroud, Arteta, Flamini isn't bad too have in reserve.

So when Walcott gets injured, like he does at least twice a season, Giroud gonna score them the goals? Their in a fight with Manure and the Dippers for 4th.
Arsene has only used about 40 out of his 100m chest. We can expect a striket, DM and defensive reinforcements with the rest of that money.

I'm not sure he'll defo sign another striker. I think if an opportunity were to present himself that proved a good deal, perhaps a cut price Balotelli or someone of that ilk, then he might go for it. Otherwise, he definitely will go for a defensive midfielder & what is looking increasingly like a Vermaelen replacement, and also a back up goalkeeper (who is looking increasingly like Ospina).

As for the attack, I think Walcott will be right with Sanchez through middle but that being interchangeable. Giroud and Joel Campbell are also options. I'm hoping Sanogo & Akpom go on loan, I've really like the look of Akpom, whether that will translate to a first team squad member time will tell.
 
Great to see oppo fans on this thread....hope they don't mard off like that other gunner last year tho? What was his name?
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Great to see oppo fans on this thread....hope they don't mard off like that other gunner last year tho? What was his name?
Gooner2?

He went full idiot tbf
 
Kun Aguero said:
cookster said:
Kun Aguero said:
So much is wrong with this post.



I'd make them title favorites for the league if they get Khedira.

But you seem to think so much is right with your post? Title favourites, fuck me!


On the floor or in the bed fella?

Khedira Ramsey
AOC Ozil Sanchez
Walcott

Is as good a front 6 as we or Chelsea can put out, Rosicky,Carzola, Wilshire, Podolski, Giroud, Arteta, Flamini isn't bad too have in reserve.
Interested to hear how that front 6 is gonna stop their back 4 from falling to pieces every time they face a decent team like it did last year. This being a back 4 that has been weakened with the loss of Sagna.

Also:

........Fernandinho......Yaya

....Nasri..............Silva.............Jovetic

.........................Aguero

is much higher in quality than the Arsenal 6 which is more raw and hasn't actually played together yet.

I predict 3rd for Arsenal. Title challenge to fall away in Feb/March again.
 
The issues with Arsenal go much deeper than them covering weaknesses with new signings. Yes, you cannot argue against them strengthening significantly with the likes of khedira and Sanchez, two genuine operators at the highest level.
The problem though with Arsenal is twofold.
Firstly, they are the poorest of the top sides (the big five say) without the ball. This has been a common theme with Wenger sides throughout his reign really and was highlighted dramatically when the old back four he inherited left the scene. They are a forward thinking side with great movement but there are two sides to the game and they only excel at one.
The other issue with them is their mental strength and for me they are still lacking here big time. We absolutely battered them last season and Chelsea embarrassed them too. Even united beat them at home, they have a habit of capitulating and when you look at the squad, you’re asking yourself who's the leaders here, who'll drag the side through tough times? Wenger's sides have been found wanting at the business end of the season too many times, this won't change.
 
blue_paul said:
The issues with Arsenal go much deeper than them covering weaknesses with new signings. Yes, you cannot argue against them strengthening significantly with the likes of khedira and Sanchez, two genuine operators at the highest level.
The problem though with Arsenal is twofold.
Firstly, they are the poorest of the top sides (the big five say) without the ball. This has been a common theme with Wenger sides throughout his reign really and was highlighted dramatically when the old back four he inherited left the scene. They are a forward thinking side with great movement but there are two sides to the game and they only excel at one.
The other issue with them is their mental strength and for me they are still lacking here big time. We absolutely battered them last season and Chelsea embarrassed them too. Even united beat them at home, they have a habit of capitulating and when you look at the squad, you’re asking yourself who are the leaders here, who'll drag the side through tough times? Wenger's sides have been found wanting at the business end of the season too many times, this won't change.

That's a good point there. You only have to look at our squad last year to see the value of leaders on the pitch. Silva's performance in the Hull game was a perfect example of what you are talking about. The lad pretty much dragged us to victory that day (and a few others last season as well).
 
blue_paul said:
The issues with Arsenal go much deeper than them covering weaknesses with new signings. Yes, you cannot argue against them strengthening significantly with the likes of khedira and Sanchez, two genuine operators at the highest level.
The problem though with Arsenal is twofold.
Firstly, they are the poorest of the top sides (the big five say) without the ball. This has been a common theme with Wenger sides throughout his reign really and was highlighted dramatically when the old back four he inherited left the scene. They are a forward thinking side with great movement but there are two sides to the game and they only excel at one.
The other issue with them is their mental strength and for me they are still lacking here big time. We absolutely battered them last season and Chelsea embarrassed them too. Even united beat them at home, they have a habit of capitulating and when you look at the squad, you’re asking yourself who's the leaders here, who'll drag the side through tough times? Wenger's sides have been found wanting at the business end of the season too many times, this won't change.

Hard to argue with much of this. I wouldn't put it down to specifically the old back 4 leaving, because the Invincibles were after they all left. I'd say its more the type of player he brought in to replace the Invincibles that was the start of the rut. Its no coincidence they probably had their best season league wise post Invincibles when Flamini was at his peak.

I'd also say last season they had improved in that respect. In most games we looked fairly solid, conceded 11 goals at home in the league & 3 of them were in the first game, & only 2nd behind Chelsea in terms of number of clean sheets. However, obviously the 3 big away defeats leave a massive black stain on that record. Whether that was personnel available at the time, team mentality, lack of quality i'm not so sure, but will definitely be something that needs improved upon. In this respect i'm hoping that Sanchez work rate & pressing from the front inspires others to do so a bit more in a similar way Suarez did for Liverpool. I would also hope with Sanchez & Walcott adding lots of pace up front, the midfield would be able to sit a bit deeper in these big away games, could even go slightly more solid with Arteta / new Mid / Ramsey to give a more solid base.

Your comment about leaders is very valid as well. There's not many about, Mertesacker & Ramsey were the two that were growing into the role more. Hopefully someone like Khedira (although I don't think we will get him), or someone of that ilk will help provide some more leadership, but I agree it does remain a worry.
 
blue_paul said:
The issues with Arsenal go much deeper than them covering weaknesses with new signings. Yes, you cannot argue against them strengthening significantly with the likes of khedira and Sanchez, two genuine operators at the highest level.
The problem though with Arsenal is twofold.
Firstly, they are the poorest of the top sides (the big five say) without the ball. This has been a common theme with Wenger sides throughout his reign really and was highlighted dramatically when the old back four he inherited left the scene. They are a forward thinking side with great movement but there are two sides to the game and they only excel at one.
The other issue with them is their mental strength and for me they are still lacking here big time. We absolutely battered them last season and Chelsea embarrassed them too. Even united beat them at home, they have a habit of capitulating and when you look at the squad, you’re asking yourself who's the leaders here, who'll drag the side through tough times? Wenger's sides have been found wanting at the business end of the season too many times, this won't change.

^THIS.

Finally a Bluemooner not elevating them to elite status just because of Sanchez.

As Paul says, no leadership, no mental strength. Will beat weak teams on talent and they concentrate well when on top but they get bossed by teams on their level and above. The other day I was wondering if Arteta is their hard man....i mean that says it all.
 
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