Wake up man! He's English! Haven't you heard that no English player should ever sign for City as they will have their careers ruined forever and that the only crumb of comfort for them is a fat contract? I know this to be true as TalkSport and the national press swear this to be so...agyeiboateng said:Why were we not in for Calum Chambers? He looks a star
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:Saw this article about Arsenal attendances in the Telegraph.
Arsenal announce attendances 6,000 higher than official Met Police figures
Arsenal defend policy of declaring attendances based on tickets sold as study shows actual crowds at Emirates Stadium in 2013/14 season were 6,550 lower
By Ben Rumsby
9:48AM BST 14 Aug 2014
More than 170,000 seats were left empty during Arsenal’s home games last season, according to startling new figures which cast serious doubt on the Premier League’s boast of record occupancy on the eve of the new campaign.
Attendance for matches at the Emirates Stadium recorded by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), which counts the number of spectators who turn up to games, contrasts sharply with the official figure released by the club, which is based on tickets sold. Data published on the blog 'a is for arsenal' following a Freedom of Information request to the MPS shows the latter recorded an average attendance of 53,788 at the 60,338-capacity ground for all Arsenal matches last season, an occupancy figure of 89.1 per cent.That is almost 10 per cent lower than the 99.1% average released by the club and would suggest an alarming number of no-shows for matches – 173,945 in total during 2013-14, or an average of 6,550 per game.
Such stark figures are not limited to Arsenal either, with a similar FOI request to Greater Manchester Police last season revealing it had recorded much lower attendances for Manchester United matches at Old Trafford than the club, the difference in one case being almost 25,000.
Some police forces claim not to possess similar data on Premier League teams in their area but such dramatic examples of no shows recorded at two of the best-supported sides in the top flight – who also boast its two biggest grounds – hints at a widespread issue. According to the Premier League, last season witnessed a record 95.9 per cent occupancy rate for matches, the highest in the top division since 1949-50.
The MPS figures for Arsenal matches were published amid growing anger about a perceived lack of value-for-money when it comes to attending matches in England. A march on the Premier League’s headquarters was taking place in London on Thursday by fans demanding a reduction in ticket prices, which have increased every year for a decade. The protesters were given more ammunition for their fight on Wednesday when the head of the Bundesliga claimed there would be a “huge s---storm” in Germany if clubs increased the cost of even a bratwurst.
Reacting to the publication of the MPS figures for matches at the Emirates Stadium, a spokesperson for Arsenal Supporters’ Trust told the Telegraph: “Seeing so many empty seats at Arsenal is a tragedy when there are so many fans who can’t get a ticket or can no longer afford the prices.“Getting more people in the stadium also creates a better atmosphere and more backing for the team so it has to be a high priority for Arsenal to address this. “The AST has been urging Arsenal to make real investment into improving their ticket exchange arrangements and to incentivise the use of the tickets at every game by allocating cup final tickets to those who go to most games. “It may even be time to consider removing season tickets from those who rarely attend.”
Arsenal released a statement to explain their position. “We are clear in all our communication that the figure we are announcing reflects the number of tickets sold," the club said. “The club are comfortable with using ‘number of tickets sold’ as the measurement for attendances, and believe it is a reliable and relevant one. We have no plans to review this at present.
“It’s worth making the point that the club work hard to ensure that Emirates Stadium is as full as possible on matchdays, through our Ticket Transfer and Ticket Exchange systems.”
Yep. It always makes me wonder why people buy tickets then don't attend. I can understand season ticket holders missing the odd game, but over 6500 per game? Ridiculous.Matty said:Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:Saw this article about Arsenal attendances in the Telegraph.
Arsenal announce attendances 6,000 higher than official Met Police figures
Arsenal defend policy of declaring attendances based on tickets sold as study shows actual crowds at Emirates Stadium in 2013/14 season were 6,550 lower
By Ben Rumsby
9:48AM BST 14 Aug 2014
More than 170,000 seats were left empty during Arsenal’s home games last season, according to startling new figures which cast serious doubt on the Premier League’s boast of record occupancy on the eve of the new campaign.
Attendance for matches at the Emirates Stadium recorded by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), which counts the number of spectators who turn up to games, contrasts sharply with the official figure released by the club, which is based on tickets sold. Data published on the blog 'a is for arsenal' following a Freedom of Information request to the MPS shows the latter recorded an average attendance of 53,788 at the 60,338-capacity ground for all Arsenal matches last season, an occupancy figure of 89.1 per cent.That is almost 10 per cent lower than the 99.1% average released by the club and would suggest an alarming number of no-shows for matches – 173,945 in total during 2013-14, or an average of 6,550 per game.
Such stark figures are not limited to Arsenal either, with a similar FOI request to Greater Manchester Police last season revealing it had recorded much lower attendances for Manchester United matches at Old Trafford than the club, the difference in one case being almost 25,000.
Some police forces claim not to possess similar data on Premier League teams in their area but such dramatic examples of no shows recorded at two of the best-supported sides in the top flight – who also boast its two biggest grounds – hints at a widespread issue. According to the Premier League, last season witnessed a record 95.9 per cent occupancy rate for matches, the highest in the top division since 1949-50.
The MPS figures for Arsenal matches were published amid growing anger about a perceived lack of value-for-money when it comes to attending matches in England. A march on the Premier League’s headquarters was taking place in London on Thursday by fans demanding a reduction in ticket prices, which have increased every year for a decade. The protesters were given more ammunition for their fight on Wednesday when the head of the Bundesliga claimed there would be a “huge s---storm” in Germany if clubs increased the cost of even a bratwurst.
Reacting to the publication of the MPS figures for matches at the Emirates Stadium, a spokesperson for Arsenal Supporters’ Trust told the Telegraph: “Seeing so many empty seats at Arsenal is a tragedy when there are so many fans who can’t get a ticket or can no longer afford the prices.“Getting more people in the stadium also creates a better atmosphere and more backing for the team so it has to be a high priority for Arsenal to address this. “The AST has been urging Arsenal to make real investment into improving their ticket exchange arrangements and to incentivise the use of the tickets at every game by allocating cup final tickets to those who go to most games. “It may even be time to consider removing season tickets from those who rarely attend.”
Arsenal released a statement to explain their position. “We are clear in all our communication that the figure we are announcing reflects the number of tickets sold," the club said. “The club are comfortable with using ‘number of tickets sold’ as the measurement for attendances, and believe it is a reliable and relevant one. We have no plans to review this at present.
“It’s worth making the point that the club work hard to ensure that Emirates Stadium is as full as possible on matchdays, through our Ticket Transfer and Ticket Exchange systems.”
Happens at most grounds. The police announce the figure for how many people actually attended the match, the football club announces the figure for how many tickets were sold.
I'm no cynic said:Yep. It always makes me wonder why people buy tickets then don't attend. I can understand season ticket holders missing the odd game, but over 6500 per game? Ridiculous.Matty said:Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:Saw this article about Arsenal attendances in the Telegraph.
Arsenal announce attendances 6,000 higher than official Met Police figures
Arsenal defend policy of declaring attendances based on tickets sold as study shows actual crowds at Emirates Stadium in 2013/14 season were 6,550 lower
By Ben Rumsby
9:48AM BST 14 Aug 2014
More than 170,000 seats were left empty during Arsenal’s home games last season, according to startling new figures which cast serious doubt on the Premier League’s boast of record occupancy on the eve of the new campaign.
Attendance for matches at the Emirates Stadium recorded by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), which counts the number of spectators who turn up to games, contrasts sharply with the official figure released by the club, which is based on tickets sold. Data published on the blog 'a is for arsenal' following a Freedom of Information request to the MPS shows the latter recorded an average attendance of 53,788 at the 60,338-capacity ground for all Arsenal matches last season, an occupancy figure of 89.1 per cent.That is almost 10 per cent lower than the 99.1% average released by the club and would suggest an alarming number of no-shows for matches – 173,945 in total during 2013-14, or an average of 6,550 per game.
Such stark figures are not limited to Arsenal either, with a similar FOI request to Greater Manchester Police last season revealing it had recorded much lower attendances for Manchester United matches at Old Trafford than the club, the difference in one case being almost 25,000.
Some police forces claim not to possess similar data on Premier League teams in their area but such dramatic examples of no shows recorded at two of the best-supported sides in the top flight – who also boast its two biggest grounds – hints at a widespread issue. According to the Premier League, last season witnessed a record 95.9 per cent occupancy rate for matches, the highest in the top division since 1949-50.
The MPS figures for Arsenal matches were published amid growing anger about a perceived lack of value-for-money when it comes to attending matches in England. A march on the Premier League’s headquarters was taking place in London on Thursday by fans demanding a reduction in ticket prices, which have increased every year for a decade. The protesters were given more ammunition for their fight on Wednesday when the head of the Bundesliga claimed there would be a “huge s---storm” in Germany if clubs increased the cost of even a bratwurst.
Reacting to the publication of the MPS figures for matches at the Emirates Stadium, a spokesperson for Arsenal Supporters’ Trust told the Telegraph: “Seeing so many empty seats at Arsenal is a tragedy when there are so many fans who can’t get a ticket or can no longer afford the prices.“Getting more people in the stadium also creates a better atmosphere and more backing for the team so it has to be a high priority for Arsenal to address this. “The AST has been urging Arsenal to make real investment into improving their ticket exchange arrangements and to incentivise the use of the tickets at every game by allocating cup final tickets to those who go to most games. “It may even be time to consider removing season tickets from those who rarely attend.”
Arsenal released a statement to explain their position. “We are clear in all our communication that the figure we are announcing reflects the number of tickets sold," the club said. “The club are comfortable with using ‘number of tickets sold’ as the measurement for attendances, and believe it is a reliable and relevant one. We have no plans to review this at present.
“It’s worth making the point that the club work hard to ensure that Emirates Stadium is as full as possible on matchdays, through our Ticket Transfer and Ticket Exchange systems.”
Happens at most grounds. The police announce the figure for how many people actually attended the match, the football club announces the figure for how many tickets were sold.
Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.
Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, police say, not taking in Monday's game against Manchester City. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.
Robbo. said:Arsenal fans
Didnt realise what utter twats they are.
Looking for a taxi after the game on Sunday back to my parked car and all the Arsenal fans I passed made a funny remark about the result or the Manc accent. I thought it was very childish and tackless as they won a friendly. Are they always this moronic punch of twats or was this just a unlucky day passing all the Arsenal Knob heads in one day?
Slightly unlucky, about 95% are moronic twats, all the time. The rest are alright bar two weeks of the season.Robbo. said:Arsenal fans
Didnt realise what utter twats they are.
Looking for a taxi after the game on Sunday back to my parked car and all the Arsenal fans I passed made a funny remark about the result or the Manc accent. I thought it was very childish and tackless as they won a friendly. Are they always this moronic punch of twats or was this just a unlucky day passing all the Arsenal Knob heads in one day?
Robbo. said:Arsenal fans
Didnt realise what utter twats they are.
Looking for a taxi after the game on Sunday back to my parked car and all the Arsenal fans I passed made a funny remark about the result or the Manc accent. I thought it was very childish and tackless as they won a friendly. Are they always this moronic punch of twats or was this just a unlucky day passing all the Arsenal Knob heads in one day?