Arsenal Thread | 2025/26

Gingers Dad said:
Nobody forced you to sign Holding or any other players. Stop making excuses
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At that point in Arsenal's development players like Holding were 'our level'. We were hoping to get Top 4 and being in a title race was a shock. We were lucky that we had a young Saliba return from loan and turning out unexpectedly to be a baller but really we were very surprised to be where we were in the table (to coin the City phrase 'we're not really here'). We had signed Jesus and Zinchenko but it's not as if we'd signed KDB and Foden - it was City cast-offs.

It was only then that Kroenke Jr took over the reigns more with the remit of making Arsenal a force, buoyed by Champions League money. We signed Rice and it all stepped up from there in terms of trying to transform the club into regular 'expected' challengers instead of surprise packages.
 
bridgeno1 said:
At that point in Arsenal's development players like Holding were 'our level'. We were hoping to get Top 4 and being in a title race was a shock. We were lucky that we had a young Saliba return from loan and turning out unexpectedly to be a baller but really we were very surprised to be where we were in the table (to coin the City phrase 'we're not really here'). We had signed Jesus and Zinchenko but it's not as if we'd signed KDB and Foden - it was City cast-offs.

It was only then that Kroenke Jr took over the reigns more with the remit of making Arsenal a force, buoyed by Champions League money. We signed Rice and it all stepped up from there in terms of trying to transform the club into regular 'expected' challengers instead of surprise packages.
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If I remember City's "castoffs" were being hailed as potential Balloon D'Or winners by the media that season . Two more brilliant players that City "let go or didn't treat well" see also Palmer, Grealish , KDB As for CL money more like buoyed by interest free Shareholder Loan Payments Nothing to see here .
 
surprisedbygrass said:
If I remember City's "castoffs" were being hailed as potential Balloon D'Or winners by the media that season . Two more brilliant players that City "let go or didn't treat well" see also Palmer, Grealish , KDB As for CL money more like buoyed by interest free Shareholder Loan Payments Nothing to see here .
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Well they were sub players at City but walked into the 1st team at Arsenal at that stage. Don't forget Arsenal ran City close in 2 seasons - the 1st time against a team that won the treble and the next season against a team that was one bad match at Wembley away from winning a double. The Dippers champions of last season were nowhere near the level of that City side, and the current City side is a way off the level of the team that Arsenal ran close yet Arsenal today are a much better side than we were in those seasons hence the logical conclusion would be that this is our time to finally get the damn thing across the finishing line, but of course you never know.

Re the Balon D'Or thing, don't forget much of the sports media is London based and are Arsenal fans. The rest are Rags with a few Dippers as well.
 
bridgeno1 said:
Well they were sub players at City but walked into the 1st team at Arsenal at that stage. Don't forget Arsenal ran City close in 2 seasons - the 1st time against a team that won the treble and the next season against a team that was one bad match at Wembley away from winning a double. The Dippers champions of last season were nowhere near the level of that City side, and the current City side is a way off the level of the team that Arsenal ran close yet Arsenal today are a much better side than we were in those seasons hence the logical conclusion would be that this is our time to finally get the damn thing across the finishing line, but of course you never know.

Re the Balon D'Or thing, don't forget much of the sports media is London based and are Arsenal fans. The rest are Rags with a few Dippers as well.
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Don’t you have a tarquin site to post on? ;-)
 
bridgeno1 said:
At that point in Arsenal's development players like Holding were 'our level'. We were hoping to get Top 4 and being in a title race was a shock. We were lucky that we had a young Saliba return from loan and turning out unexpectedly to be a baller but really we were very surprised to be where we were in the table (to coin the City phrase 'we're not really here'). We had signed Jesus and Zinchenko but it's not as if we'd signed KDB and Foden - it was City cast-offs.

It was only then that Kroenke Jr took over the reigns more with the remit of making Arsenal a force, buoyed by Champions League money. We signed Rice and it all stepped up from there in terms of trying to transform the club into regular 'expected' challengers instead of surprise packages.
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And you've become expected bottlers instead
 
AFCAndy said:
So 2 world class players as opposed to Holding who couldn't start in the Championship after he left. The PL is a squad game
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So were these two of those players you bought with interest free loans? Would it be okay for our owners to loan us the odd billion or two on such a basis?
 
They're currently the best team in the league. Long way to go yet and some teams could yet go on a decent run.
 
They didn’t have to play that well to beat Spurs who were all over the place. A slick city would hunt these lot down but we are miles off this season. Need to get rid of the dead wood and buy proper quality.
 
manimanc said:
Everyone else is well below par.
If everyone was firing these bellends wouldn’t be top.
If they win it then it'll be another Leicester.
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Sorry, I know this is a City forum so I'll try not to tub thump too much but this is a side that finished a close 2nd to a treble winning city side and then another excellent City side the season afterwards. By a point. Since then this side has improved a lot. It's vastly better to the team that was pipped by City. So I think IF Arsenal win this season it will be with a side that would have won many other PL seasons. Certainly we'd have won the last 2 PL seasons with this squad if we go on the basis that a vastly inferior squad almost won in 24 and that Dippers side last season was nothing special they just had no competition.
 
bluemonkey71 said:
They didn’t have to play that well to beat Spurs who were all over the place. A slick city would hunt these lot down but we are miles off this season. Need to get rid of the dead wood and buy proper quality.
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Our squad isn’t as good as theirs that’s the issue. We went to our bench yday looking to change the game and we had nothing there. I include Marmoush in that who looks like the wish version of salah. Time was our bench started for most teams in the world.
 
bridgeno1 said:
Sorry, I know this is a City forum so I'll try not to tub thump too much but this is a side that finished a close 2nd to a treble winning city side and then another excellent City side the season afterwards. By a point. Since then this side has improved a lot. It's vastly better to the team that was pipped by City. So I think IF Arsenal win this season it will be with a side that would have won many other PL seasons. Certainly we'd have won the last 2 PL seasons with this squad if we go on the basis that a vastly inferior squad almost won in 24 and that Dippers side last season was nothing special they just had no competition.
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But you didn’t.
 
bridgeno1 said:
Sorry, I know this is a City forum so I'll try not to tub thump too much but this is a side that finished a close 2nd to a treble winning city side and then another excellent City side the season afterwards. By a point. Since then this side has improved a lot. It's vastly better to the team that was pipped by City. So I think IF Arsenal win this season it will be with a side that would have won many other PL seasons. Certainly we'd have won the last 2 PL seasons with this squad if we go on the basis that a vastly inferior squad almost won in 24 and that Dippers side last season was nothing special they just had no competition.
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Honest opinion. With three players in an offside position and two of those directly in front of the goalkeeper, should your second goal have been allowed?
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
Honest opinion. With three players in an offside position and two of those directly in front of the goalkeeper, should your second goal have been allowed?
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TBH I have no idea about what the rules are these days, they seem to change depending on the ref and the direction of the wind. Keeper actually made a feeble attempt at saving it - it kind of went straight at him.
 
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