Arsenal Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

[munster]

There's something massively conceited about the Arsenal fans.

They dined out at the top table for 10 - 15 years, are now in a rut and it's a conspiracy against them - Arab money; stadium move; clubs picking off their best players; dodgy reffing; injury list as long as your arm etc etc.

The fact is,their business model is all about making money and their performances have suffered as a result. Mis-guided chairman/ owners eh? Well I never.

Welcome to our (pre Sept 2008) world.

Thought City were excellent yesterday. What price a Barry, Zabba and Milner at the Emirates now?

 

[flb]

There's something massively conceited about the Arsenal fans.

They dined out at the top table for 10 - 15 years, are now in a rut and it's a conspiracy against them - Arab money; stadium move; clubs picking off their best players; dodgy reffing; injury list as long as your arm etc etc.

The fact is,their business model is all about making money and their performances have suffered as a result. Mis-guided chairman/ owners eh? Well I never.

Welcome to our (pre Sept 2008) world.

Thought City were excellent yesterday. What price a Barry, Zabba and Milner at the Emirates now?

And they sold there best player to United which makes a mockery of all there bleating about us and Chelsea.

 

[MCFC BOB]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

 

[kara54]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

LOL :)

U really dont like Dzeko, m8.
Penalty was bad (Dzeko was never a penalty taker), but he was miles better than Tevez yesterday.

For me Milner MOTM followed by David and Dzeko (one goal, one penalty won, one red and one yellow card, yet our worst player on the pitch, funny :)

Although most of you won't agree with me, but I did not miss Yaya for a second yesterday. I really appreciate him, great player.
But he is also one of the reasons our game gets so slow sometimes.

 

[Sparkys-Army]

I agree with Bob, don't want this turning into another anti/for Dzeko post but he didn't exactly have a stormer yesterday. Won the penalty which was good positional sense - a skill he is deadly at. Used it well to grab his goal but didn't exactly offer much for the second half and still lacked the hold up play which we need at points during the game. Yet, he's a fantastic goal scoring machine!

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I agree with Bob, don't want this turning into another anti/for Dzeko post but he didn't exactly have a stormer yesterday. Won the penalty which was good positional sense - a skill he is deadly at. Used it well to grab his goal but didn't exactly offer much for the second half and still lacked the hold up play which we need at points during the game. Yet, he's a fantastic goal scoring machine!

I thought we as a team stopped going forward with the same zeal, not just down to the forwards.

And I'm sure it's obvious tevez needs a goal desperately from open play to lift his confidence

 

[the blue panther]

I agree with Bob, don't want this turning into another anti/for Dzeko post but he didn't exactly have a stormer yesterday. Won the penalty which was good positional sense - a skill he is deadly at. Used it well to grab his goal but didn't exactly offer much for the second half and still lacked the hold up play which we need at points during the game. Yet, he's a fantastic goal scoring machine!

I thought we as a team stopped going forward with the same zeal, not just down to the forwards.

And I'm sure it's obvious tevez needs a goal desperately from open play to lift his confidence

Agreed.

 

[Len Rum]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

Can't agree with your rating for Joe Hart. He punched weakly at two crosses that he should easily have held which could have cost us. This is a major weakness in his game which he needs to improve.He had virtually nothing else to do all game so on that basis I would rate him a two at most.

 

[Juan King]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

I think you are being harsh on Edin. His pass that put Tevez 1:1 with the keeper was inch perfect.

 

[Pam]

Edin played well yesterday.

 

[Anonymous]

There was a passage of play in the first half where Edin had dropped into the left mid area in our half and played a lazy pass straight to an Arsenal player in the centre circle (or thereabouts). What made me laugh about this was the huge cry of "EDIN!!!!!" you could hear from Mancini picked up by the pitchside mics.

He did well yesterday otherwise Dzeko. Decent enough game and I hope he starts next week. I've always said he needs a run of games. A trite cliche I know, but he's definitely one of those "confidence" players.

 

[Bill]

Edin played well yesterday.

careful pam the edin haters (you know, the ones that dont go, will be after you.

 

[Dzeko & Hyde]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

The MOTM got the lowest rating?
And the man with the clean sheet got the next lowest rating?

You can do better.

 

[Vienna_70]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

The MOTM got the lowest rating?
And the man with the clean sheet got the next lowest rating?

You can do better.

Džeko was not MotM, IMHO.

Jimmy Milner was our best player, followed by Zabaleta.

Though to be fair, none of them had a bad game.

 

[MCFC BOB]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

The MOTM got the lowest rating?
And the man with the clean sheet got the next lowest rating?

You can do better.

Dzeko was far from Man of the Match.

And Hart got a six because he had nothing to do. How can I give him a ten for standing still?

 

[cheddar404]

Hart - was pretty much a spectator, had nothing to do other than catch a cross. 6

Zabaleta - kept Gibbs silent, won every 50/50. 8
Kompany - was pretty solid, dealt with the little threat Arsenal gave us, wrongly sent-off. 8
Nastasic - calm, assured, quiet, still bedding himself. 7
Clichy - covered a lot of ground and provided us with width. Also won the ball from Sagna and started the move for our first. 7

Javi Garcia - really lived up to the name "midfield general", started our move for the second goal. 9
Barry - read the game, paced the game, all with little recognition. 8
Silva - always toying, always teasing, always reliable. 7
Milner - took his goal brilliant and provided width, work-rate and graft. 9

Dzeko - got his goal but a dreadful penalty and a pretty dire second half spoilt his game. 5
Tevez - busy but quiet, showed great vision and then desire for both of our goals. 7

The MOTM got the lowest rating?
And the man with the clean sheet got the next lowest rating?

You can do better.

Dzeko was far from Man of the Match.

And Hart got a six because he had nothing to do. How can I give him a ten for standing still?

He stood still magnificently though.

 

[BlueMoonoverUS]

From Wikipedia...

"In sport, a Man of the Match or Player of the Game or Man of the Series award is given to the outstanding player, almost always the one who makes the most impact, in a particular match or series."

With winning that penalty, which by consequence excluded Arsenal player and with that made the most impact to the outcome of the game plus scoring a goal and playing well, you can see why he got it. It's not the best player which in my opinion was Milner, but the player who made most impact that gets MOM award.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

From Wikipedia...

"In sport, a Man of the Match or Player of the Game or Man of the Series award is given to the outstanding player, almost always the one who makes the most impact, in a particular match or series."

With winning that penalty, which by consequence excluded Arsenal player and with that made the most impact to the outcome of the game plus scoring a goal and playing well, you can see why he got it. It's not the best player which in my opinion was Milner, but the player who made most impact that gets MOM award.

He didn't "win" the penalty. Koscielny did. Then he royally fucked up taking it.

So why not Milner, who scored the first, made the second and generally gave the Arsenal midfield and defence the run-around all afternoon? Or Tevez who provided the pass for the first and the touch for the second?

 

[BlueMoonoverUS]

From Wikipedia...

"In sport, a Man of the Match or Player of the Game or Man of the Series award is given to the outstanding player, almost always the one who makes the most impact, in a particular match or series."

With winning that penalty, which by consequence excluded Arsenal player and with that made the most impact to the outcome of the game plus scoring a goal and playing well, you can see why he got it. It's not the best player which in my opinion was Milner, but the player who made most impact that gets MOM award.

So why not Milner, who scored the first, made the second and generally gave the Arsenal midfield and defence the run-around all afternoon? Or Tevez who provided the pass for the first and the touch for the second?

Apparently it doesn't work that way.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Hart 6
Zaba 8
Kompany 7
Nasty 7
Clichy 7
Barry 8
Garcia 7
Millner 9
Silva 8
Dzeko 7
Tevez 7