Astonishing developments in AI

One of the cold countries did the univeral payment as a trial looked like it was working well and then just got shelves, might have been Finland can't remember.
It's being trialed in many countries at the moment with most other countries using their data as a basis. There is even a democratic candidate running his campaign on it now. So far results have been positive. the thing is is that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or not as the uemployment rates from the loss of the transportation sector will collapse world economies without it.
 
On the other hand - how excited are you to attend a Deep Blue concert? Or to purchase Deep's very latest music videos?
Bands? Fair enough. They represent a fraction of a percent of the musicians employed by or self employed in the industry though.
Probably wouldn't be too hard to replace the entire pop band stable with AI either going off the video in the OP :)
 
Bands? Fair enough. They represent a fraction of a percent of the musicians employed by or self employed in the industry though.
Probably wouldn't be too hard to replace the entire pop band stable with AI either going off the video in the OP :)
Bands/orchestras/opera - musical venues where there exists an emotional human attachment to those involved may well endure. But per my original premise, jobs where humans may be meaningfully employed are becoming scarce - and in 100-years time, may all but disappear.
 
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No machine can or ever will be able to do everything better than a human. No machine could ever work out the universe. Create antibiotics, understand the human body. They might be able to make another machine we show it how to create. You say I am basing my assessment in tried and tested evidence. That’s cool by me. You’re basing your predictions on duck all but a doomsday supposition that experience and evidence does not support.
Why can’t they be great for humanity? Because that doesn’t fit your narrative. That’s a belief based on a belief that the end is nigh. It isn’t.

First, rubbish. You're still bound by your 20th century blinkered thinking. Seriously mate, you need to open your mind because the limitations you describe are SO yesteryear.

Second, it's you who keeps mentioning doomsday. I think it could all be very positive.
 
First, rubbish. You're still bound by your 20th century blinkered thinking. Seriously mate, you need to open your mind because the limitations you describe are SO yesteryear.

Second, it's you who keeps mentioning doomsday. I think it could all be very positive.

He is calling is luddites the irony.
 
Exactly not.

The world will be able to buy everything it buys now, because people will be paid just the same, they just won't need to do any work in order to be paid it.
I hope you're right.

Trouble is - enormously rich corporate entities own the means of production. And in a capitalistic society - the last thing on earth that they will be willing to do is share the wealth.
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That said - I'm a believer in capitalism. But - that form of wealth distribution - in 100-years time - seems to me, likely to be non-optimal.
 
Exactly not.

The world will be able to buy everything it buys now, because people will be paid just the same, they just won't need to do any work in order to be paid it.
I disagree, in the future virtually everything will be given away free imo. 3d printing and automation will make the production of almost everything so cheap that it will be almost given away . One of the first steps to a post scarcity economy.
 
I hope you're right.

Trouble is - enormously rich corporate entities own the means of production. And in a capitalistic society - the last thing on earth that they will be willing to do is share the wealth.
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That said - I'm a believer in capitalism. But - that form of wealth distribution - in 100-years time - seems to me, likely to be non-optimal.
I've posted about this before on this very forum, but - although I am a staunch capitalist - ultimately I think as a system it is doomed.

Whilst the numbers of "have nots" are substantially outnumbered by the "haves", it works. But as the need for employees declines and with it wages and numbers of jobs, and as the balance shifts, to the point where the numbers of "have nots" are greater and greater and the numbers of "haves" dwindlingly small, it will become unsustainable.

For two reasons. The first is that there won't be enough market demand, since "the market" which is essentiall dominated by have nots, won't have enough money. And second because the sense of injustice will reach critical levels and people will literally riot in the streets. Some form of revolution - or else to advert it, progressive evolution - is inevitable IMO.

I've also said previously that this cannot come about successfully and sustainably until there is much greater harmonization and alignment across global economies. Whilst one bloc is able to exploit its citizens and produce cheaper goods, then another bloc will find it difficult to reward people for doing nothing (i.e. resulting in them producing more expensive and therefore unsaleable goods).

But these are all fleetingly transient issues. In 1,000 years the idea that anyone ever had to do any paid work at all will be a very distant memory and seem quite ridiculous.
 
I disagree, in the future virtually everything will be given away free imo. 3d printing and automation will make the production of almost everything so cheap that it will be almost given away . One of the first steps to a post scarcity economy.
It amounts to almost the same thing. But the difference is, if the companies producing goods are not rewarded for doing so, then why would they bother to produce them? But you may be right. It could go either way, since everything will be under state ownership eventually.
 
>> I've posted about this before on this very forum, but - although I am a staunch capitalist - ultimately I think as a system it is doomed.
Me too - on both accounts. Capitalism is the very best form of economic wealth distribution - provided that true competition exists. Since this motivates individuals to succeed - rewarding success while eliminating failures.

But too I absolutely agree that in an era where robots/computerization/AI is so sophisticated that any human endeavor in areas where such technology prevails is doomed to failure - and where generation of wealth is such that humans need not work - then capitalism is doomed.

Whats going to be interesting is the transition between the moneyed rich and the common folk. With luck, it's going to be peaceful. But in some cases, it likely will not be.
 
You are David Icke and I claim my £5 sir!
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He is nothing but a fucking conman. Making a fortune out of the gullible. No better than a psychic, a faith healer, or a religious priest, Rabbi or evangelical charlatan.

To be honest I wish I got in in the scam. But then again, I don’t like exploiting people with mental issues. I’m too fucking soft for my own good.

And for that, you owe me a £5er.
 
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He is nothing but a fucking conman. Making a fortune out of the gullible. No better than a psychic, a faith healer, or a religious priest, Rabbi or evangelical charlatan.

To be honest I wish I got in in the scam. But then again, I don’t like exploiting people with mental issues. I’m too fucking soft for my own good.

And for that, you owe me a £5er.
He's right about the English royal family being lizards though.
 
He is nothing but a fucking conman. Making a fortune out of the gullible. No better than a psychic, a faith healer, or a religious priest, Rabbi or evangelical charlatan.

To be honest I wish I got in in the scam. But then again, I don’t like exploiting people with mental issues. I’m too fucking soft for my own good.

And for that, you owe me a £5er.
Do you accept cans of piss?
 
Should be brilliant for helping find lost kids, etc... The aging of faces using parents and the strong features the kid had when they went missing might be spot on.
 
Automation is going to make so many jobs redundant will be no need for half the worlds population.

I remember watching a program years ago talking about technology and automation, the jist of it was how this would give people far more leisure time to enjoy themselves while the robots and other technology pick up many tasks.

They forgot to mention that this increased leisure time would be as a result of being unemployed.
 
Human consciousness to make rational or indeed irrational decisions. To develop a thirst for power is never going to happen. It’s just like computers advancement, who would have thought they could achieve what they have?

It’s human advancement. It won’t destroy humanity. It will change it and how we do things, but as I said, so did the wheel.

Human society will adapt and harness. Have faith in your species. :).

Elon Musk disagrees with you! And he’s fucking smart.
 

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