Atmosphere 2024/25

Gone are the days when the club would allow Fergie cock and Neville cock into the ground on derby day.

Some people might think it's childish, but to me it's football fan banter. Something that is disappearing more and more from (PL) football matches as the clubs and the Police crack down on such behavior.

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I remember the Fergie cock at the Hamburg game.....couldn't stop pissing myself.
 
Younger lads are going to County, macc, wherever.
Matches like that are still a bit like what we experienced all those years ago.
Prem football isnt and wont ever be the same again , sadly
We’re not exactly young (30s and 40s) but five of my mates (4 City, all ex-season ticket holders; 1 United) went to the Wythenshawe derby on Boxing Day instead of City (or Utd). They would all rather have gone to City but they couldn’t justify the price of the tickets at Christmas.

All of them are coming and bringing their kids on Saturday against Salford.

All of these lads are the type of fans who would enjoy a proper atmosphere stand at City for good prices like Bayern have.
 
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Given the layout similarities between the 'Dortmund Yellow Wall' stand and our new North Stand. It would seem a no-brainer to try at all costs to attempt to replicate and learn from their set-up. I've said lots to defend the club, but if the new stand is not used for our more hardcore singing fans, they will have made a grave error.
Completely agree.

There isn’t another football club in world football who’d build this:

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…and it not be a dedicated atmosphere stand.

Look at it. It’s fucking ideal for atmosphere. You couldn’t think up a much better stand for atmosphere: huge tier to group many thousands of fans together (which we’ve not had as a club since 1994, and it’s conspicuous in its absence!), big deep roof, nobody would be moved for Cup games to accommodate larger away allocations.

What are City playing at?! This could be so special, and creating a big atmosphere stand is a huge marketing opportunity for the club.

I nearly wrote ‘I can’t believe they’re going to miss this opportunity’, but I can really, however it’s so frustrating!

Could you imagine if Liverpool decided to flatten the Kop and build an even bigger one, yet then say it’s going to be a bit of everything and a bit of nothing and not necessarily for atmosphere?!
 
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It might be a very small step. Visual if nothing. It certainly won't improve the atmosphere. But, I want City to ban half and half scarfs inside the Etihad next season.

When you come to watch City, you support City, not the opposing team, wearing their colours on your scarf.

Not only that, buying half and half scarfs from the souvenir hawkers outside the Etihad is taking money from the club, whilst the fans are facing increased season ticket and match day ticket price increases season after season.

The name Manchester City Football Club is owned by the club, and I would assume copy righted, so City, the City Council, and their trading standards department can confiscate fake City merch outside the ground. Chelsea are in the process of doing that legally.

By all means wear a scarf inside the ground, but wear a City scarf, not a half and half scarf.
Spot on that!

And it’s not even half’n’half scarves. Some are coming in wearing shirts of other clubs. I’ve seen a lad wearing a fucking Celtic shirt at a game. I’ve seen another fella with a Liverpool scarf (it wasn’t even a City v Liverpool game) not a HnH City:Lpool scarf, a full on fucking Lpool scarf.

What the fuck’s going on?

If I wore my City shirt at Parkhead or my City scarf at Anfield, in their home ends, I’d get my head kicked in. And wouldn’t complain about having my head kicked in either, I’d have it coming. Why do these cunts think they can come into our stadium taking the fucking piss like that?

All other club colours - not just HnH scarves, but any colours or badges of other clubs, scarves, shirts, coats, hats etc. - should be restricted items and no admission to the stadium should be allowed with them on. Should be part of our Ts&Cs.
 
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3000 vocal fans at the back of this stand would totally transform the atmosphere forever. If we get that many to move it’s job done. 3000 together can make a right racket and that’s all it needs to spread around the stadium at the right moments.
Yeah it definitely would. And it would feed down the rest of the stand.

But we just need the bloody club to give us some key details. If they could just come out and say; ‘yes, we will allow as many season ticket holders to move there, and to keep their tickets as their current season tickets are, as want to move there’… that would be the only thing we need to drive this to the wider fanbase across as many channels as we can hammer it out.
 
JCfuckingL.

Get up to ESL3. 305. Row E.

No one under 70, most approaching 80, and all as mad as hatters cos were from Denton,formerly the hat capital of the world !!
I must be a JCL compared Geriatric Corner! And there was me thinking I was a fully paid up FOC...
 
We’re not exactly young (30s and 40s) but five of my mates (4 City, all ex-season ticket holders; 1 United) went to the Wythenshawe derby on Boxing Day instead of City (or Utd). They would all rather have gone to City but they couldn’t justify the price of the tickets at Christmas.

All of them are coming and bringing their kids on Saturday against Salford.

All of these lads are the type of fans who would enjoy a proper atmosphere stand at City for good prices like Bayern have.
Exactly.
The problem isnt particular to city, its a prem thing. Or certainly a “top 6” problem
 
Maybe Khaldoon and Soriano don’t have a clue about the actual cost of a ticket. Maybe ticket pricing is generated using analytics.

But they will decide how important match day revenue is in the grand scheme of things and what direction the club is taking when it comes to the fabric of the fan base.

They should be interested in fan engagement and satisfaction. Even if they’re not, it doesn’t mean we should ever give up.

We’re collectively fucked if we just accept that things will only continue to change for the worse. That literally give them an open goal to fully flog the club to tourists and those who can afford to pay whatever crazy prices are set.
But the club have shown multiple times in recent years they don’t give a toss about atmosphere , supporters, loyalty etc etc.

They’ve been caught red handed selling as many tickets as possible both home and away to the highest bidders - no matter who they support.

They won’t engage with City matters or 1894, and seem intent on alienating legacy supporters at every turn.

Nothing is gonna change - the charge is on for Matchday revenue to be well north of £100m a season no matter how many legacy supporters are priced out.

We’re collectively fucked already. The only thing that might give us a sniff is when they see thousands of empty seats in the shiny new stand and realise that tourists aren’t as interested when the team is not challenging for pots and they have outpriced thousands of time served legacy supporters.
 
But the club have shown multiple times in recent years they don’t give a toss about atmosphere , supporters, loyalty etc etc.

They’ve been caught red handed selling as many tickets as possible both home and away to the highest bidders - no matter who they support.

They won’t engage with City matters or 1894, and seem intent on alienating legacy supporters at every turn.

Nothing is gonna change - the charge is on for Matchday revenue to be well north of £100m a season no matter how many legacy supporters are priced out.

We’re collectively fucked already. The only thing that might give us a sniff is when they see thousands of empty seats in the shiny new stand and realise that tourists aren’t as interested when the team is not challenging for pots and they have outpriced thousands of time served legacy supporters.
Sadly mate you are correct on everything and that’s why 1894 gave their “red lines” everyone agrees with them really and it’s reading the room, there are nationwide protests going on at practically every ground over most of these issues - tickets, tourists, prices, aggressive stewarding and clubs generally telling fans to like it or lump it.

Ours is one of the worst though for only offering flexi golds and no season tickets. In fact is that even legal ?

This is a line in the sand from some fans to say stop taking the piss and reverse the trends. Surely we need these issues sorting out first. Otherwise stuff your corporate stand.

That’s more important surely than finding “useful fools” to fill the club’s half hearted attempt at an “atmospheric end”

Let’s see if club blink again. If they relent and make some concessions and provide guarantees maybe fan groups will also move position.
 

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