Atmosphere 2024/25

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Blaming "the club" or Soriano for an influx of tourists is ridiculous.

They are there because our local/regular fans didn't buy tickets. It's that simple. The club operate a reducing sales criteria method so the long serving fans get first dibs.
Wrong - Soriano’s ticketing policies have lead us down this path. He is to blame.

Regular fans are being priced out. Many seasoncard holders can’t justify £50+ on top of what they are paying.

The end result is more tickets for tourists.
 
Wrong - Soriano’s ticketing policies have lead us down this path. He is to blame.

Regular fans are being priced out. Many seasoncard holders can’t justify £50+ on top of what they are paying.

The end result is more tickets for tourists.

Correct! ,£70+ for PL match day tickets, on top of CL match day tickets. Plus 1 extra game in the CL. Fans don't want to sign up to the CL cup scheme. So the choice is, either the PL or the CL matches. The PL matches will always come first.
 
The tourist argument is a trojan-horse for racism.

There are some genuine problems such as regular fans not showing up, and away fans getting seats in home areas and tickets given to fans unfairly. It should be based on games you've been to. Now money matters.

Some people are confusing issues. It's brilliant that so many Asian supporters feel happy to come to City. We also see the same thing on less glamorous FA Cup games and games like Brugge when loads of young families come. They don't sing either by the way. The atmosphere has always relied on the South Stand and a core group of singers. If their numbers dwindle, then so will the noise and singing.

it absolutely is brilliant to see asian supporters supporting City, it's not brilliant to see thousands of non City fans infiltrating the home sections and treating the stadium like a social media playground, City are again getting absolutely ridiculed all over social media, and if i wasn't a City fan i would be joining in. Real Madrid at home should nearly be the pinnacle of watching your team at home, all it is is a third party site cash grab, like every other big game at the Etihad. I personally want a return to the fanbase we had in the early 2000's, supporting the club because you loved City not because you want to stream it to outer mongolia and put it on snapchat and instagram, or whatever other bollox exists, nothing to do with creed, colour religion, but your actual motive for being there, i was surrounded last night in ssl3 by people i had absolutely nothing in common with, and our common love should have been City.
 
Where does this lack of identity theory come from? From swales taking over in the early 70s to the Sheikh buying us in 2008 our identity was a bunch of fans in the stands and a bunch of clowns running the club. The playing side might have changed but the incompetence of the ticketing department, particularly relating to how fans are treated, is back to Bernard Halford days.
 
It's all falling in deaf ears.

The club doesn't give a fuck. All they give a fuck about is increasing match day revenue.

If you think it is bad now, wait until the North stand expansion is operational, 8000 extra seats to fill, and the 400 room hotel to fill that is attached to it.
 
But how long will fans priced out of the PL and CL games continue to pick up the slack for domestic cup games? Perhaps new fans of any age will settle for it, but former regulars who want to see more than half a dozen games all of which are dependent on the draw might not be happy with so few chances to see their team.
I know a rag who goes to some domestic cup and Thursday League games and he's happy with that. But he's never been a regular at the swamp.

I won't for a number of reasons. Feeling my support is only need for 'lower' games. The park the bus teams. The travel. Inability to get seats next family. Even at lower level games you get the half n half games.

Like I keep banging on about the Southampton game, that day really open my eyes, I really felt that I didn't belong anymore.
Did the pre match tour about 10:30 (3pm ko). Out of our tour of about 25 only around 7 or 8 City fans. This tours go every 15 minutes.
I hated the tour I was out number by fans of others club who were all going to the game.
Than seeing a lad walking around the shop in a spuds shirt WTF. He bought a City shirt put it on his spuds shirt.

That particular day I felt my love for going to matches disappear, it hasn't come back. I really don't enjoy the matchday anymore. I have two games booked for April and May I'm not sure if I'll bother going to be honest.

I never thought I would feel this way. I feel sad that I do, really sad. I use to love coming back home to Manchester being surrounded by fellow City fans, the laughter, the funny chants or songs. Now I'm scared to open my mouth in case I offended someone. I sort of feel on edge incase shouting 'get up you fucking twat'
Football use to be my realise but now it's about FFP , VAR (3 fucking minutes yesterday) Players diving, time wasting, faking head injuries, parking the bus.

I guess I have to admit to myself that modern football isn't for me. I've falling out of love.
 
Why shouldn't they bring an Indian flag. Of course I don't know what the clippers are doing there but amongst any group you will find odd behaviour.

We are having this discussion because some of you are not comfortable around Asians and City have attracted a huge number of Asian fans because Manchester is a cosmopolitan city and City were doing well. On a big football night, they go to the football. Why shouldn't they?

Celtic don't have 20,000 new fans and I don't think many Asians go to football in Glasgow. Manchester is the most cosmopolitan City outside of London. If you go to Leeds, like I do, its completely segregated and the Asian community there doesn't like Leeds Utd. They follow the Manchester clubs. I know that because I talk to them.
Why the fuck would you bring an Indian flag? I wouldn’t dream of taking an English flag draped around me to a game in Europe. Not only would i look like an absolute tosser, but i’d also be showing a level of disrespect.
 
Yeah, I do think some of the "club should do something" chatter a bit much sometimes. What should they do? Only sell to people with a Manchester postcode? Personally quiz people coming in about whether they were at York away? I think there's a decent conversation to be had about pricing, but I also think a core of our support won't come to CL games. We can either close off the third tier as we did pre-Pep or we can sell those tickets to people want want them. I do think stewards need to be a bit more assertive (and were last night), but there's no easy fix to this
The easy fix is to lower prices significantly so regular fans can attend and support their team, and having more stringent purchase history criteria, thus minimising tickets available to tourists.
However, the more stringent purchase history criteria would have been difficult to apply for last night given that the full game details we known less than two weeks ago.
One of the problems we have is the definition of tourist fans. Someone who lives or works in Manchester and fancies seeing a game is a tourist but could become a regular if they remain in the area. New fans, particularly in large groups, could also become regulars if they are local. But I doubt many in those groups would initially spend lots of money several times a season and that's what they would have to do due to ridiculous ticket prices. Tourists who just want to see the Etihad, or City or RM as a one-off are another matter entirely and should be right at the bottom of the list when it comes to getting tickets.
 
I won't for a number of reasons. Feeling my support is only need for 'lower' games. The park the bus teams. The travel. Inability to get seats next family. Even at lower level games you get the half n half games.

Like I keep banging on about the Southampton game, that day really open my eyes, I really felt that I didn't belong anymore.
Did the pre match tour about 10:30 (3pm ko). Out of our tour of about 25 only around 7 or 8 City fans. This tours go every 15 minutes.
I hated the tour I was out number by fans of others club who were all going to the game.
Than seeing a lad walking around the shop in a spuds shirt WTF. He bought a City shirt put it on his spuds shirt.

That particular day I felt my love for going to matches disappear, it hasn't come back. I really don't enjoy the matchday anymore. I have two games booked for April and May I'm not sure if I'll bother going to be honest.

I never thought I would feel this way. I feel sad that I do, really sad. I use to love coming back home to Manchester being surrounded by fellow City fans, the laughter, the funny chants or songs. Now I'm scared to open my mouth in case I offended someone. I sort of feel on edge incase shouting 'get up you fucking twat'
Football use to be my realise but now it's about FFP , VAR (3 fucking minutes yesterday) Players diving, time wasting, faking head injuries, parking the bus.

I guess I have to admit to myself that modern football isn't for me. I've falling out of love.
Unfortunately this is what success brings,it’ll be similar at other clubs some not on the same scale as City,I’d say the rags and red scousers would have as many if not more tourist fans at their games.football has changed with them also becoming tourist attractions with the tour of grounds and taking in a game ..
 
That's odd because watching through amazon it sounded poor. Even the PA was quite !
It was good until the last 5 or 10 mins of the first half. In the second half the team sucked the life out of the game by reverting to the negative sideways passing and not spotting our wingers in acres of space time and time again, so the fans generally gave up.
 
Why the fuck would you bring an Indian flag? I wouldn’t dream of taking an English flag draped around me to a game in Europe. Not only would i look like an absolute tosser, but i’d also be showing a level of disrespect.
You might bring an Indian flag if we had an Indian player. But we haven't. - We had fans with Bosnian flags for Dzeko and Algerian flags for Mahrez for example.
 
So should the club leave the seat empty because someone's budgets doesn't stretch to it ?
How about the make the games more affordable, retaining the local support of the club instead of whoring themselves out to people that aren’t even City fans? I know that’s not going to happen as we’ve got people running our club who are only bothered about cash flow.
 
So it's now racist to want supporters that live near(ish)to the ground, that don't wear other teams tops, don't take selfies for 90 mins, don't go crazy at halfway line throw-ins, that do know the area and identity of the club.
Racist? Really.
Wondered how long it would take for the Bluemoon chattering class to conflate the two.
 
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It was good until the last 5 or 10 mins of the first half. In the second half the team sucked the life out of the game by reverting to the negative sideways passing and not spotting our wingers in acres of space time and time again, so the fans generally gave up.
I thought so as well. The first half hour in the South Stand was decent. It's never as good as it can be when we play a team like Madrid because nerves play a part. Chants were getting going last night and then a loose pass would allow Madrid to counter and the chant would die a death because people were convinced it'd end up in Ederson's net.
 
I found last night that you definitely get a different perspective sitting in a unknown area.
I was with my Canadian granddaughter (yes one of your dreaded 'tourists' but she has been a City supporter and had a fan number from 6 months old, as has her older sister). There were a lot of different fans and the yellow coated lady steward mentioned in a post above was definitely on a mission to root them out.

The thing I did notice though which obviously when I sit in my own seat on the front row, I don’t notice as much, was how many of the City fans left early. Most of them that left early wouldn’t have realised that we lost that maych because they left before the final goal was scored.

My granddaughter couldn’t believe that they were leaving so early. I know people have said it before, but it’s amazing what a nuisance is when you’ve got rows of people leaving when you’re trying to watch the end of the match.
I don’t think any of them were tourists though. I think there’s a bit of an irony there.

One other thing I noticed was the abuse our players were getting from some of our ‘fans’. Maybe it’s because I’m getting old, but there was no need for some of that.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The players don’t go out on that pitch to play badly and to be quite honest I don’t think they did play that badly last night. They completely held Real Madrid. It was just bad luck just one of those things.
But I’ll be glad to get back to my own seat. I couldn’t use it last night because I had to swap it so that I could sit near my granddaughter.

There was one guy abusing the Real Madrid fans who were being escorted out. They were going very quietly no hassle from them at all and his language was wow. The guy sitting next to me had to tell him to calm down at one stage.

Oh well, as my old Gran used to say we may be poor, but we do see life and I sure saw some last night.

I enjoyed the match really enjoyed the match.
:-) :-)
 

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