Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

There's a good, upbeat tone to the latest 1894 Newsletter. Blues wanting to relocate to the more atmospheric South Stand blocks need to read this. There's helpful context on the North Stand Upper too.

The 109 Ultras were back to decent form on Saturday after the ceasefire in the Stretford / Wythenshawe banter.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I think so mate.

The lad I know whose affected couldn’t be there on Monday because he’s in the army.

In addition, If you are in an OSC Branch Kevin Parker asked for the names of Blues affected by the changes about a month ago so he could keep in contact on the matter.
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Not in an OSC mate but had no email
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
It wasn't a problem 20 years ago
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I know. But people are changing. Our fans making the noise 20 years ago are getting old and alot of them like the old City. We never looked after the young fans coming through and made it easy and affordable for them. The club is set up for new fans and familys to come from all over who are wealthy spend loads of money on there day out and go home. Bit like going to a theme park. We're buliding a hotel onto our football stadium what do all theme parks have now hotels. Seeing haaland is the main attraction.
 
Carter1990 said:
I know. But people are changing. Our fans making the noise 20 years ago are getting old and alot of them like the old City. We never looked after the young fans coming through and made it easy and affordable for them. The club is set up for new fans and familys to come from all over who are wealthy spend loads of money on there day out and go home. Bit like going to a theme park. We're buliding a hotel onto our football stadium what do all theme parks have now hotels. Seeing haaland is the main attraction.
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Funny you should say that, because I remember my local village starting a Supporters Club back in 1999, and the initial meeting was full of diehards who had travelled all over the country throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s.

Kevin Horlock and Chris Bird both made themselves available for photographs and questions and I remember being really impressed with their overall dedication

It was actually the representatives from the Official Supporters Club who acted like complete tossers and they clearly had no idea of local geography and the fact that the East Cheshire/North Derbyshire border had always enjoyed a traditionally strong hardcore of City support

Kevin Parker sneered at one bloke; "Do any of you go to away games?"
"Ever since the George Poyser days. How about you? " was the brilliant response.
 
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asahartford1 said:
I see the Stretford end have hundreds of flags now., do you think it enriches their voice ?
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No you’re missing the point

The media were interested in the concourse protests because we are visible each game.

Any blue can literally suggest any message to go on a banner.

As for the Stretford end flags they are mostly club funded and besides we couldn’t give two hoots about what they are doing
 
With the recent mailer from the 1894 talking about wanting more fans in the South Stand

If you look through planning documents for other teams, you may find the solution

The current set-up does not work because the away fans take up a quarter of the whole South Stand. We need all our singing fans, core support, to be in one section, not split up like they are at the moment

The whole lower level of the South Stand would then be the home end, as it is all rail-seated as well. Look at every team around the world, they have a core support fully behind a goal, not split up as we have



This is why fans wanted a Blue Wall in the North Stand until the club messed it up

If we move the away fans out of the South Stand altogether and move them into the corner of the East Stand, this is what other teams have done as well

Look at what Newcastle do to keep their home atmosphere at their ground. Why don't we copy that and relocate Kippax Corner to the lower South Stand, where the away fans are currently located?

This would also fall into the plans for the North Stand that the 1894 talk about in their mailer as well
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LEXSTARproject said:
With the recent mailer from the 1894 talking about wanting more fans in the South Stand

If you look through planning documents for other teams, you may find the solution

The current set-up does not work because the away fans take up a quarter of the whole South Stand. We need all our singing fans, core support, to be in one section, not split up like they are at the moment

The whole lower level of the South Stand would then be the home end, as it is all rail-seated as well. Look at every team around the world, they have a core support fully behind a goal, not split up as we have



This is why fans wanted a Blue Wall in the North Stand until the club messed it up

If we move the away fans out of the South Stand altogether and move them into the corner of the East Stand, this is what other teams have done as well

Look at what Newcastle do to keep their home atmosphere at their ground. Why don't we copy that and relocate Kippax Corner to the lower South Stand, where the away fans are currently located?

This would also fall into the plans for the North Stand that the 1894 talk about in their mailer as well
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Do the police know about your plans? Moving away fans will NEVER happen.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I remember some absolutely shocking atmospheres in 2005-2006, much, much worse than anything we have produced this year. Atmospheres that would trigger meltdowns on here. Granted, the football was pretty shite too, but those early years at Eastlands were pretty dire.
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I think there have now been four significant moments when the club missed opportunities to establish a decent match-to-match atmosphere at the Etihad.

The first was when the stadium opened and atmosphere was completely ignored. Fans in the old north stand were relocated to the south stand lower next to the away fans, and that created the biggest problem which has never been solved.

A few years later the club inexplicably started marketing the 111 area as an atmosphere area, thus splitting up the vocal fans.

When the south stand upper was opened there were numerous ways that could have had a huge impact: if the new stand was marketed as a vocal area that would have been good. If the away fans were moved that could have been even better. In the event it was a worst case scenario: cheap tickets meant the vocal fans were now split into three areas, all divided by overhangs and away fans and totally unable to hear each other.

The fourth is the end of this season. It is a bigger job because of the mistakes made above but could be done with a push but neither the club nor the vocal fans seem to care.

The atmosphere will be gone forever at the end of the season because of the cumulative effects of those four decisions and the impact they have had over the club's culture.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I think there have now been four significant moments when the club missed opportunities to establish a decent match-to-match atmosphere at the Etihad.

The first was when the stadium opened and atmosphere was completely ignored. Fans in the old north stand were relocated to the south stand lower next to the away fans, and that created the biggest problem which has never been solved.

A few years later the club inexplicably started marketing the 111 area as an atmosphere area, thus splitting up the vocal fans.

When the south stand upper was opened there were numerous ways that could have had a huge impact: if the new stand was marketed as a vocal area that would have been good. If the away fans were moved that could have been even better. In the event it was a worst case scenario: cheap tickets meant the vocal fans were now split into three areas, all divided by overhangs and away fans and totally unable to hear each other.

The fourth is the end of this season. It is a bigger job because of the mistakes made above but could be done with a push but neither the club nor the vocal fans seem to care.

The atmosphere will be gone forever at the end of the season because of the cumulative effects of those four decisions and the impact they have had over the club's culture.
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Yeah agree with a bunch of this. Family stand on north level 1 and tunnel club behind Pep also has to be included.

I'm on the whole fairly agnostic about it all, on good days the atmosphere is as good as anywhere on Europe, on bad days it's as bad as anywhere in England. I'm not sure it's possible for fans to categorize themselves as singers/not singers. The south stand is full of lads checking their bets and sneaking off for a pint and I don't know how the club polices that without getting more grief on here about how out of touch they are so I understand why they have given up trying. That said, I would have moved to NS2 if it was gonna be blue wall stuff, but looks like it isn't, which is a real shame.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
With 1894 posting about members relocating to the new North Stand tier 2.

When meeting the club, would it not be a suggestion to ask them to change their ideas about Tier 1 in the North Stand and deliver what they advised in the planning document, which was a safe standing in Tier 1 right behind the goal?

As you may have seen in the recent victory against Real Madrid, the most vocal fans in Madrid are behind the goal

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1. CITY need one end.
2. No other big club shares their home end with away fans.
3. No other club has more away fans in the so called home end for cup matches.
4. There will be approx. 7,000 new seats / standing seats in the extended North Stand. Fans can move to those without impacting on any existing fans.
5. The North Stand is a golden opportunity that should be welcomed - 3000 safe standing and a large central core of general admision seats. An entire CITY end.
6. The South Stand has now been proven to not work well as an atmosphere stand. It never will due to the configurations, split of home fans, too small lower level (now level 0) and domination of singing away fans particularly in cup matches and CL games.
7. Why 1894 can not understand this seems bizarre.
8.Somehow a relatively simple and clear matter has become over complicated and unecessarily divisive.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I think there have now been four significant moments when the club missed opportunities to establish a decent match-to-match atmosphere at the Etihad.

The first was when the stadium opened and atmosphere was completely ignored. Fans in the old north stand were relocated to the south stand lower next to the away fans, and that created the biggest problem which has never been solved.

A few years later the club inexplicably started marketing the 111 area as an atmosphere area, thus splitting up the vocal fans.

When the south stand upper was opened there were numerous ways that could have had a huge impact: if the new stand was marketed as a vocal area that would have been good. If the away fans were moved that could have been even better. In the event it was a worst case scenario: cheap tickets meant the vocal fans were now split into three areas, all divided by overhangs and away fans and totally unable to hear each other.

The fourth is the end of this season. It is a bigger job because of the mistakes made above but could be done with a push but neither the club nor the vocal fans seem to care.

The atmosphere will be gone forever at the end of the season because of the cumulative effects of those four decisions and the impact they have had over the club's culture.
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A lot of good points DD but that only means it will be a bigger achievement when better atmospheres return. These lyrics are what I’m getting at.
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Both @Didsbury Dave & @Bert Swift raise good points, we need a HOME END, end of story. We are South Stand will only work if the whole stand is Manchester City fans, as I said in my last post, there are ways of doing this.

The South Stand does not work at the moment because of quarter of the stand is away fans.

Imagine putting what we HAVE into famous home ends around the country, for example, The Kop, The Holte End, Gallowgate, it would not work, that's why the Away Fans are in the Newcastle Leazes Stand, Liverpool Anfield Road End and Aston Villa Doug Ellis Stand

All three stands mentioned are away from the home fans' section

The home end needs to act as a megaphone for the stadium to help generate noise. At the moment, we can't do that as the noise is diluted by away fans being there
 
My understanding is because of where the away fans coach park is and the segregation already in place the away fans will never be moved from the current location. As previous poster has said you don’t find away fans in the kop, Holte End, Leeds Kop etc. At Leeds we are shoved in to a corner, Newcastle & Sunderland up in the heavens, scum in a corner, even at Bournemouth we are down the side. Bizarrely at Chelsea we are in the old shed end. Arsenal in a corner, Neverton in a corner etc. But come to City and sit right in the middle of two supposed vocal groups but instead of having a thousand or two singing the same and it spreading the away fans break it up. Look at the away support and ask yourself why we sound so much better than at home. It doesn’t take a genius to understand. North stand should be one blue wall with no hospitality and plenty of cheap season cards for the under 25s with the proviso that their cards must be used personally 15 times and not the 10 as it’s currently. Just because it’s cheap doesn’t mean they could pick and choose their games, we want them at most games. Should have had unreserved seating with the middle section with the outer sections reserved.
 
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