Attacks in Paris

Ric / pb - I accept this is your board but I think you should both just concentrate on what is happening tonight rather than getting into this now. It is futile.

If other people were just concentrating on what is happening tonight, then I would happily do the same. But when people are making hysterical, accusatory statements then I feel a need to respond.
 
Why aren't they fucking storming it then?

Chill out. You want them to storm it instantly and risk all the lives in there.....or take a short time to get blueprints and any other information that can aid an eventual assault? Idiot.
 
I don't think now is the time to be point scoring. Let's just hope the death toll doesn't not get any worse.
But people are posting idiotic, hysterical, knee jerk stuff without a shred of thought. Close the borders, kill them all, send the troops in, nuke Iraq, intern or deport all Muslims.

Some idiots need to be told some home truths, namely that there are no simplistic solutions to this problem and we've had a huge hand in its making.
 
People understandably say no wonder the Palestinians have been radicalised after what the Israelis have done to them. The same applies to many of the people in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Algeria etc after what the West has done to them. Sending bombers, troops, removing their leaders and trying to impose political solutions on them that they simply don't understand or buy into. So I certainly agree with you there.
Bang on. The very root of all this is the US led invasions and indoctrinations of countries and peoples who didn't want them. Imagine if that happened the other way round ?

I doubt the US will suffer the atrocities we are seeing at the moment in Europe.

The root of all evil...
 
But people are posting idiotic, hysterical, knee jerk stuff without a shred of thought. Close the borders, kill them all, send the troops in, nuke Iraq, intern or deport all Muslims.

Some idiots need to be told some home truths, namely that there are no simplistic solutions to this problem and we've had a huge hand in its making.
This.
 
But people are posting idiotic, hysterical, knee jerk stuff without a shred of thought. Close the borders, kill them all, send the troops in, nuke Iraq, intern or deport all Muslims.

Some idiots need to be told some home truths, namely that there are no simplistic solutions to this problem and we've had a huge hand in its making.

Yes but as mods don't fight fire with fire. We have seen it a million times before. Tonight is a very emotive night. The most important think should be focussing on the military operation to save the lives of people at that concert.
 
No, they do not represent the true religion of Islam. You just seem too naive to comment on this topic, let alone making any judgements about a whole religion. Saying ISIS represents Islam is just like saying KKK represents Christianity and the whole Christianity population of the world. True Muslims and followers of Islam, will never condone any of this ISIS nonsense and they will have a huge heart, whether it be donating to the poor or performing pilgrimage.

Just please, never confuse extremism with the peaceful religion of Islam.

As I said before, but you didn't reply. There is no one spokesman for Islam, because there are many factions of Islam. No one can claim to speak for Islam because there are different interpretations of it all over the world. However, ISIS do represent their version of Islam and are doing their best to enforce it on others. Just because they don't represent your version of Islam doesn't make your version the "true religion" just as it doesn't make theirs the "true religion" although no doubt both of you would argue that you were right and the other wrong.
 
People understandably say no wonder the Palestinians have been radicalised after what the Israelis have done to them. The same applies to many of the people in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Algeria etc after what the West has done to them. Sending bombers, troops, removing their leaders and trying to impose political solutions on them that they simply don't understand or buy into. So I certainly agree with you there.
Religious fundamentalism and moderate islam's utter failure to stand up to it isn't doing them any favours either.
 
Yes but as mods don't fight fire with fire. We have seen it a million times before. Tonight is a very emotive night. The most important think should be focussing on the military operation to save the lives of people at that concert.
We've sent Ducado, Bill & Matty to sort that out. Ric, me and cleavers are sorting the forum out.
 

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