Attacks in Paris

[masterwig]

Why do people keep distinguishing between 'extreme' and 'moderate' religious types?

As far as I see being religious (properly religious, not just those people who tick yes on the census) is an extreme position. You're submitting yourself to a doctrine based purely on blind faith and are completely inflexible in that view.

Christian: "God put Adam and Eve on Earth"

Atheist: "No, we evolved from monkeys *provides 200 years of scientific evidence*"

Christian: "No i'm not having it, bible says Adam and Eve"

Atheist:"Well what can I say to change your mind?"

Christian: "Nothing, I believe in the word of God"

Atheist: "Err okay but you're wrong"

Christian: "am not, it's my belief and you aren't allowed to challenge it with things like facts and science. That's discrimination!"

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

what akin to the ship of fools thread, you really have some front, give it a rest george

Everyone needs to give it a rest as it's derailing the thread.

 

[George Hannah]

Pol Pots policies were not in the name of atheism. Must try harder.

whatever

 

[George Hannah]

Everyone needs to give it a rest as it's derailing the thread.

maybe if a few folk on here realised that 90+% of this planet's population have a religious faith and are not terrorists.

 

[PragueBlue]

Why do people keep distinguishing between 'extreme' and 'moderate' religious types?

As far as I see being religious (properly religious, not just those people who tick yes on the census) is an extreme position. You're submitting yourself to a doctrine based purely on blind faith and are completely inflexible in that view.

Christian: "God put Adam and Eve on Earth"

Atheist: "No, we evolved from monkeys *provides 200 years of scientific evidence*"

Christian: "No i'm not having it, bible says Adam and Eve"

Atheist:"Well what can I say to change your mind?"

Christian: "Nothing, I believe in the word of God"

Atheist: "Err okay but you're wrong"

Christian: "am not, it's my belief and you aren't allowed to challenge it with things like facts and science. That's discrimination!"

Most Christians don't believe that at all although some do. Just like some atheists seem to believe we evolved from monkeys which is also wrong according to current scientific knowledge/theory.

Anyway sorry to derail the thread further.

 

[bluethrunthru]

really confused situation in Paris this morning - they are saying the mastermind of Fridays attack may have been holed up in the flat they raided in St Denis - its said to be about a mile from the Stade de France? Why hole up so near to the scene of Fridays attacks? One of the bombers fled back to Belgium - they know that coz he was stopped and released at the French/Belgian border?
Planning more attacks? If so why does the mastermind have to be at the heart of the operation? One would think he would do what he needs to at arms length? There are many ways to instruct via modern comms - or is he such a mastermind he wants to martyr himself? Is he such a mastermind they are willing to let him do so? You'd have thought his organisation would want him to plan and execute other raids?

 

[kas_tippler]

I don't think he would ever see a prison. The CIA would soon have him off on a plane somewhere for some waterboarding.

Corbyn will want to know if their human rights are being protected.

 

[grunge]

Why do people keep distinguishing between 'extreme' and 'moderate' religious types?

As far as I see being religious (properly religious, not just those people who tick yes on the census) is an extreme position. You're submitting yourself to a doctrine based purely on blind faith and are completely inflexible in that view.

Christian: "God put Adam and Eve on Earth"

Atheist: "No, we evolved from monkeys *provides 200 years of scientific evidence*"

Christian: "No i'm not having it, bible says Adam and Eve"

Atheist:"Well what can I say to change your mind?"

Christian: "Nothing, I believe in the word of God"

Atheist: "Err okay but you're wrong"

Christian: "am not, it's my belief and you aren't allowed to challenge it with things like facts and science. That's discrimination!"

Thats not extreme though, thats just stupidity.

To make it extreme add the following

Atheist: "But there is no evidence to back you up, your reading a book written by men not by a god."

Christian: "Gaaaaahhhhh Praise GOD" *shoots you in the face*

 

[kas_tippler]

Horrid video online of "collateral damage" from french jets attacking targets in the middle east.

Fuck your bombing, it shows to me a lack of conviction making the french leader look petty and reactionary. When clear positions are not established civilians die.
Putin we know is just a fucker who does what the hell he likes. Get boots on the ground, if their rulers don't like it then tough shit, we ain't here for you.

You volunteering to put your boots on the ground?

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

You volunteering to put your boots on the ground?

Could you imagine what boots on the ground would be like? Having to go through towns where you don't know who is a civilian and who's ready to blow themselves up.

The army already has the horror of what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq fresh in their minds. What do you do infiltrate Isis with special forces or get every NATO member to contribute troops to flood Syria and Iraq? Dropping bombs on them and expecting the Iraq military to fight on the ground isn't working.