Attacks in Paris

[stony]

Jason Manford had his facebook account temperately suspended because of his reaction.

Jason Manford shared a furious post on his official Facebook account in response to the horrific Paris terror attacks which saw at least 140 people lose their lives.

The comedian slammed the “cowards” in the expletive-ridden post, which later saw him have his profile completely removed from the social media site.

“F**king cowards. Slaughtering innocent unarmed people for what? Families and children enjoying life, theatre, meals? Not an army vs army you f**king cowards," it began.

"For what? In who’s name? Are you doing this in the name of your god? Cos I've got news for you, if you think your 'god' is gonna reward you for this type of atrocity then your god is a massive c**t.
The dad went on: “I hope you are all caught and murdered in a similar agonising way you f**king scumbags. You are an embarrassment to humanity and a s**t stain on all of humanity. You will never defeat us, we are too strong you utter b**tards (sic)."



While his profile and the post with it was swiftly taken down for apparently breaching Facebook's strict guidelines, his fans continued to share a screen grab of his post on Twitter.
“Exactly where have I been Islamaphobic?” he replied on Twitter.

While writing to someone else, he then shared: “I’d say the same no matter what religion. My track record is proof enough I simply dislike extremists. As we all do."

Hours later, his profile had been reinstated but the post removed.
But while those re-posting it mainly supported what he was saying, one Twitter user branded him "Islamaphobic".

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...manfords-facebook-6830456#ICID=FB_mirror_main

i wouldn't normally provide a link to those cunts, but in mind of the warning from their shyster lawyers.

 

[EalingBlue2]

As long as simplistic extremists on all sides of all conflicts continue to believe the world can be classed as good v evil, black v white etc then this will always happen as it always has.

We can fight fire with fire which has worked so well so far with nearly 500000 dead in this fire fighting or we can fight fire with water and try and put it out.

All I know is that you don't defeat fascist ideology by being fascist yourselves that is admitting defeat. I find it dreadfully sad and dreadfully predictable that the religious extremists and far right are the only people who gain from these things and they don't realise just how alike they are. Hate is what we need to defeat!

We need Liberte egalite and fraternite to triumph and that means being true to those values and together defeating this evil.

I suspect there will be more though, ISIS is on the back foot where it is fighting and it can do nothing against drones and jets so it is attacking back in a way it can. It has to be crushed but what will fill the vacuum? As al Qaeda was weakened we spawned ISIS. As we defeat one enemy another comes up. If we condemn a whole people and marginalise a whole people over the acts of a few we start to prove our enemy right and create a bigger enemy.

As for Metal Biker saying we should ignore the excuses, the reasons and causes nothing could be worse . That is like trying to tackle a heart condition whilst allowing the patient to continue drinking, smoking and taking Coke. We need to eliminate the enemy, we need to eliminate the causes and we need to eliminate the excuses and maybe then we can defeat this enemy. We have defeated far bigger, stronger enemies that killed 1000's X more people than died tonight and we will defeat this one.

As for Paris I am devastated to see innocent people in a place I love attacked by mindless extremists whilst going about their Friday night!

 

[EalingBlue2]

Bravo sir, bravo.

What actions will solve it , nothing more simplistic than calling for action - straight out of the Rumsfeld, Bolton play book. Damn right action is needed but taking the wrong action is like pouring petrol on a fire and taking the right action is what is needed

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Ripped from the headlines. Apologies ahead of time for the video quality...not mine.



Not advocating anything, just commenting on the lack of any cogent reasons or responses for the inhumane and egregious actions...on both sides! Both sides think they are on the side of history, because both sides have a different vision for life. How does one fight an enemy that is willing to do absolutely anything, often things deemed unimaginable by most "normal" people? Does fire defeat fire or create more devastation? Is it even possible to be surgical in a response to such atrocities?

Certainly more questions than answers at this point, but it appears to me that the normal realm of "law enforcement" actions are simply brushed aside by these attackers. When people are willing to simply walked into a crowded room and blow themselves up, how does one counteract that? When someone lives next door to you, says Hello every day, but wakes up one day with the ability and desire to create devastation, how do you solve that problem? As was discussed ad nauseum after 7/7, how do you respond to the "enemy within"?

Again, I don't have any answers, only questions at this point, because my visceral reaction is kill them...kill them all...but who?

 

[SWP's back]

But but ... These Muslim leaders don't speak out do they ? So some say after every bloody attack.

No really a time for point scoring is it.

You're as bad as the islamophonic loons calling for ISIS to be nuked.

RIP all those that just wanted to enjoy a Friday night out in Paris.

 

[basokla]

What actions will solve it , nothing more simplistic than calling for action - straight out of the Rumsfeld, Bolton play book. Damn right action is needed but taking the wrong action is like pouring petrol on a fire and taking the right action is what is needed

Well, you tell me. What is the right action?

And before you answer, please remember these extremists HATE YOUR WAY OF LIFE. And they HATE MY WAY OF LIFE. Funny how that works isn't it?

 

[EalingBlue2]

Well, you tell me. What is the right action?

And before you answer, please remember these extremists HATE YOUR WAY OF LIFE. And they HATE MY WAY OF LIFE. Funny how that works isn't it?

Like most things in life it will be a long hard multi faceted struggle over many many years to defeat them. naziism took 1-2 decades, Stalinism/what passed as communism 45 years. It will take an approach from the ground up, it will take change in many many countries, it will take soldiers, $'s, .

Unfortunately we live in a world today inhabited by millions of people who hold no concept of time, no convey of hard work and who want simplistic answers to everything. These impatient simplistic populist reactions have got us where we are now - hopefully some adults can take over at some point!

They hate my way of life and I love my way of life and I will not defend my values by adopting theirs

 

[RandomJ]

Boots on the ground may not work in terms of defeating the ideology but surely we can destroy their infrastructure. You don't just pop down to your local B&Q to buy automatic weapons and suicide vests. These guys were highly trained in using the guns and explosives, they clearly have training camps, they clearly have weapon caches. We may not be able to bomb and shoot the ideology but we sure as hell can hit them in other places.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Fucking scum.

And to think I was speculating that a stadium would be a prime target for these savages only last week.

Really don't realise how great a threat these scumbags and their sympathisers pose to our way of life.

 

[basokla]

Like most things in life it will be a long hard multi faceted struggle over many many years to defeat them. naziism took 1-2 decades, Stalinism/what passed as communism 45 years. It will take an approach from the ground up, it will take change in many many countries, it will take soldiers, $'s, .

Unfortunately we live in a world today inhabited by millions of people who hold no concept of time, no convey of hard work and who want simplistic answers to everything. These impatient simplistic populist reactions have got us where we are now - hopefully some adults can take over at some point!

They hate my way of life and I love my way of life and I will not defend my values by adopting theirs

I'm not sure your comparisons to the Nazis or Stalinists really apply today. I think this new threat is not a snake with a head that can be cut off - even if it takes many years. I wish it were that simple but I just don't think it is. And even in those two examples - both involved war(s) that took many lives unfortunately.

I do agree with you about the world in general wanting simplistic answers. But what if the answer truly is simplistic? What if the "adults" come to the conclusion that this will not end and the only decision really to be made is do you want this battle fought on your territory on on theirs?