Attendances

[wattle]

This may sound like a stupid question to most but what stops the club from buying all the unsold tickets themselves, then claiming it was a sell out?

The type of thing we are accused of doing on RAWK you mean?

Mmmmmm...........

No I 100% believe we do this. Nothing against us doing it personally if it's another way to get over the yet to be found illegal fair play bullshit. There's no way there is 2000 season ticket holders not attending every game. We're pricing genuine fans out of the market. FACT!! - As the Spanish waiter would say

 

[Manchester33]

Aren't City's ticket prices already the lowest in the league?

No, not even close.

Our season tickets aren't bad though, considering we are champions!

 

[Manchester33]

Still miles off being 'cheap' - but so is every club though

 

[casualdeyna]

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Not so sure on that can't see them losing the expertise gained and moving the plant etc .my guess is the decision is made already one way or the other.

I am very confident that the North Stand will be developed soon after the South Stand is completed. I understand that it was always the plan.

As others have pointed out, it might not always be a sell out but there will be enough league and cup games to fill to 60-odd k to make it worthwhile in the long term.

The only point that is unclear to me is, if MCC own the stadium, who owns the expanded parts?

It used to be that we rented the stadium off MCC by giving away any revenue from tickets sold above the 32/33k capacity of Maine Road, so expanding the stadium made no sense as MCC would just get the extra revenue from the ticket sales (presumably not expanded hospitality though.)

Now though we pay a flat rate per annum, regardless of how many games we have and how many tickets we sell, which then makes perfect sense to expand as we pay the same rate regardless but get more income.

"Owning" the stadium doesn't really matter, our agreement with MCC means it is "our" stadium lock, stock and barrell, we just pay the council a flat rate per annum for it, think of it as ground rent like with a house. It is only rags who seem concerned official ownership sits with MCC, everyone knows this is our stadium, in our City

 

[tommybooth]

Candlepool to build 150,000 seater with a massive trophy room for all their Prem trophys.

Now that is my arse.

 

[blueparrot]

This may sound like a stupid question to most but what stops the club from buying all the unsold tickets themselves, then claiming it was a sell out?

The type of thing we are accused of doing on RAWK you mean?

Mmmmmm...........

No I 100% believe we do this. Nothing against us doing it personally if it's another way to get over the yet to be found illegal fair play bullshit. There's no way there is 2000 season ticket holders not attending every game. We're pricing genuine fans out of the market. FACT!! - As the Spanish waiter would say

You are 100% wrong then, the club sells out of matchday tickets for most games and 1000 to 2000 s/c holders (2-5 %) could quite easily not attend some games, especially midweek games.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

The type of thing we are accused of doing on RAWK you mean?

Mmmmmm...........

No I 100% believe we do this. Nothing against us doing it personally if it's another way to get over the yet to be found illegal fair play bullshit. There's no way there is 2000 season ticket holders not attending every game. We're pricing genuine fans out of the market. FACT!! - As the Spanish waiter would say

You are 100% wrong then, the club sells out of matchday tickets for most games and 1000 to 2000 s/c holders (2-5 %) could quite easily not attend some games, especially midweek games.

Unfortunately it does happen. No surprise that the Cat C games always seem to sell out just before the game. Every club does it they have to, too tick the boxes for FFP income.

 

[blueparrot]

No I 100% believe we do this. Nothing against us doing it personally if it's another way to get over the yet to be found illegal fair play bullshit. There's no way there is 2000 season ticket holders not attending every game. We're pricing genuine fans out of the market. FACT!! - As the Spanish waiter would say

You are 100% wrong then, the club sells out of matchday tickets for most games and 1000 to 2000 s/c holders (2-5 %) could quite easily not attend some games, especially midweek games.

Unfortunately it does happen. No surprise that the Cat C games always seem to sell out just before the game. Every club does it they have to, too tick the boxes for FFP income.

They do sell out just before the game but if you look at the planner a week before there will only be a handful left, If you look for the Hull game now I would say a couple of hundred left mainly at the top level 3. Plus maybe 300 South level 2 returned tickets. They definately couldn't use it as FFP income unless they can show income for them.

 

[coleridge]

Not so sure on that can't see them losing the expertise gained and moving the plant etc .my guess is the decision is made already one way or the other.

I am very confident that the North Stand will be developed soon after the South Stand is completed. I understand that it was always the plan.

As others have pointed out, it might not always be a sell out but there will be enough league and cup games to fill to 60-odd k to make it worthwhile in the long term.

The only point that is unclear to me is, if MCC own the stadium, who owns the expanded parts?

It used to be that we rented the stadium off MCC by giving away any revenue from tickets sold above the 32/33k capacity of Maine Road, so expanding the stadium made no sense as MCC would just get the extra revenue from the ticket sales (presumably not expanded hospitality though.)

Now though we pay a flat rate per annum, regardless of how many games we have and how many tickets we sell, which then makes perfect sense to expand as we pay the same rate regardless but get more income.

"Owning" the stadium doesn't really matter, our agreement with MCC means it is "our" stadium lock, stock and barrell, we just pay the council a flat rate per annum for it, think of it as ground rent like with a house. It is only rags who seem concerned official ownership sits with MCC, everyone knows this is our stadium, in our City

Yes, I understand the long lease concept. So the answer to my question seems to be that MCC owns all parts of the stadium in equity if not in possession. Does the stadium form part of MCC's fixed assets, I wonder? It surely can't be included in MCFC accounts.

 

[Wafty Cranker]

I am very confident that the North Stand will be developed soon after the South Stand is completed. I understand that it was always the plan.

As others have pointed out, it might not always be a sell out but there will be enough league and cup games to fill to 60-odd k to make it worthwhile in the long term.

The only point that is unclear to me is, if MCC own the stadium, who owns the expanded parts?

It used to be that we rented the stadium off MCC by giving away any revenue from tickets sold above the 32/33k capacity of Maine Road, so expanding the stadium made no sense as MCC would just get the extra revenue from the ticket sales (presumably not expanded hospitality though.)

Now though we pay a flat rate per annum, regardless of how many games we have and how many tickets we sell, which then makes perfect sense to expand as we pay the same rate regardless but get more income.

"Owning" the stadium doesn't really matter, our agreement with MCC means it is "our" stadium lock, stock and barrell, we just pay the council a flat rate per annum for it, think of it as ground rent like with a house. It is only rags who seem concerned official ownership sits with MCC, everyone knows this is our stadium, in our City

Yes, I understand the long lease concept. So the answer to my question seems to be that MCC owns all parts of the stadium in equity if not in possession. Does the stadium form part of MCC's fixed assets, I wonder? It surely can't be included in MCFC accounts.

It can & it is. I remember looking at the figures in the annual report a few years ago and it's in there.