Attendances

jayfx said:
This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?

Interesting comment in the Independent about Liverpool increasing capacity in their new stand by 8,500 next season. They are hoping that it will generate revenue of £20M per season. According to my calculator that is £2,352 revenue per seat! The chief executive effectively said that although Liverpool is a working class club they cannot be squeamish about corporate seats if they are to be able to compete.

So as a response to your question I think the idea of expansion is to increase income considerably, in City's case not to by utilisiing the new build but by increasing the prices in level 2 of the CB stand in particular.
 
Manchester33 said:
Elbow beards said:
jayfx said:
This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?
Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp


I disagree to be honest. The club realized that fans were voting with their feet in cup games and the champions league - hence the FA cup games being around £10-£15 and the BOGOF games.

I think the league games will stay similar because the club continues to sell out every game. But it will definitely have an effect on prices going up if they stadium doesn't sell out all the time.
ye, they might freeze or go up slowly, but IMO they aren't coming down for prem any time soon.
 
Elbow beards said:
jayfx said:
This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?
Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp
It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?
 
kippaxkid74 said:
franksinatra said:
Just out of interest I know in the late 60s early 70s 63,000 was common place for the derby matches and the 81 quarter final attracted a crowd of 52,000. So can any older blues remember the season the capacity dropped as surely when we hit 54k that we be our largest home attendance since that season.

Im guessing 72/73?

The official capacity was still listed as 52,500 in the mid 80s when i started going - i'm a geek who remembers this stuff! My panini sticket album, city diaries, and city progs all listedi t as that and i used to be glued to them ;)

Not that we ever hit that mark i guess ;)

The quarter replay against Everton in 1981 attracted 52,532. It was the last time we officially topped 52,500.
The figure of 52,500 capacity was often quoted just like 48,000 is often incorrectly quoted for the Etihad (occasionally by the club).
The real capacity at that time was 52,600.
 
JGL07 said:
Elbow beards said:
jayfx said:
This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?
Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp
It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?

There's no reason why the visitor allocation should increase. We only have to give 3000 or 10% of the total capacity, whichever is lower.
 
JGL07 said:
Elbow beards said:
jayfx said:
This has probably been asked already, but does increasing the capacity mean that ticket prices will go down?
Not a cat in hells chance, thanks ffp
It certainly will involve a reduction in prices.

The current pricing strategy seems to involve setting prices to sell out the lesser matches on the actual day of the match or a day before. Previously a lot of matches have been sold out weeks ahead. This is now only happening for the likes of United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. The club are clearly using a revenue maximisation price strategy by setting the maximum price that will ensure all tickets are sold.

The numbers on the waiting list suggest that season tickets will be sold out with the higher capacity. That will remove aa fair chunk of the walk-up supporters so it will be harder to shift the remaining tickets. Also the visiting support allocation will increase. Very few teams take their full quota now so that could mean more reallocated to home support.

Hence the price for walk-up tickets will be reduced especially for low profile matches.

The empty seat stuff is of no consequence. People cannot always attend every match. They go on holiday, attend family weddings and the like. They can be taken ill, suffer from cancelled trains. They can even be stuck in traffic and only arrive after the EEN have taken their photographs.

There are often empty seats in the upper tier of the South Stand. How many of those belong to people who are standing with their mates on the lower tier?
Ye as you've said walk up tickets may, not season tickets, as pointed out there is a waiting list so basic supply and demand would dictate if they can get the maximum value they will. Lets not forget they are now in it to make as much money as possible. As i pointed out earlier the best i think we can hope for is a freeze.
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
kippaxkid74 said:
franksinatra said:
Just out of interest I know in the late 60s early 70s 63,000 was common place for the derby matches and the 81 quarter final attracted a crowd of 52,000. So can any older blues remember the season the capacity dropped as surely when we hit 54k that we be our largest home attendance since that season.

Im guessing 72/73?

The official capacity was still listed as 52,500 in the mid 80s when i started going - i'm a geek who remembers this stuff! My panini sticket album, city diaries, and city progs all listedi t as that and i used to be glued to them ;)

Not that we ever hit that mark i guess ;)

The quarter replay against Everton in 1981 attracted 52,532. It was the last time we officially topped 52,500.
The figure of 52,500 capacity was often quoted just like 48,000 is often incorrectly quoted for the Etihad (occasionally by the club).
The real capacity at that time was 52,600.

Ah. I didn't think I'd misremembered 52,500. Now you've explained it.
 

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