Away fans / tourists in home sections

There's people pointing the finger at ST holders who don't go but there's all sorts of reasons why they don't.

Many can't do midweek games, some can just afford to budget and pay for their season ticket without the additional costs of cup matches, and there are some, me included, who could afford it but object to the club helping themselves to the money in our bank accounts, when they continually push the price of season tickets up, refuse to publish an upfront price tariff and make prices up as they go along. Another reason was potentially having to shell out for two extra games, as happened this season.

So I came off the CL scheme this season, although I went to the Inter game. I was bored to tears, cold and just wanted to get home and I'll probably not bother with a CL game ever again. In fact, I didn't even watch Tuesday's game on the TV as I had a much more enjoyable night out with some of my colleagues. I'm 50/50 whether to renew next season and if they mess about with concession prices it'll be 100/0 not renewing.

But there is one person we should be pointing the finger at, and that's Soriano. He was quite clear in his strategy for Barcelona that he wanted to turn them from a local, Catalan-supported club into a global attraction, which he did. He's doing the same to us and those chickens are coming home to roost.

Well, fuck him and fuck our glib-tongued chairman who enables him to do it. Despite their mealy-mouthed words in 2008 about listening to the fans, they've been quite happy to fuck us over.
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
There's people pointing the finger at ST holders who don't go but there's all sorts of reasons why they don't.

Many can't do midweek games, some can just afford to budget and pay for their season ticket without the additional costs of cup matches, and there are some, me included, who could afford it but object to the club helping themselves to the money in our bank accounts, when they continually push the price of season tickets up and refuse to publish an upfront price tariff but make prices up as they go along. Another reason was potentially having to shell out for two extra games, as happened this season.

So I came off the CL scheme this season, although I went to the Inter game. I was bored to tears, cold and just wanted to get home and I'll probably not bother with a CL game ever again. In fact, I didn't even watch Tuesday's game on the TV as I had a much more enjoyable night out with some of my colleagues. I'm 50/50 whether to renew next season and if they mess about with concession prices it'll be 100/0 not renewing.

But there is one person we should be pointing the finger at, and that's Soriano. He was quite clear in his strategy for Barcelona that he wanted to turn them from a local, Catalan-supported club into a global attraction, which he did. He's doing the same to us and those chickens are coming home to roost.

Well, fuck him and fuck our glib-tongued chairman who enables him to do it. Despite their mealy-mouthed words in 2008 about listening to the fans, they've been quite happy to fuck us over.
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There are thousand who think exactly the same as you. I'd love to know the percentage of season-ticket holders who don't go to European games, 40%?,that last sentence sums it all up and yet we have saddoes who look forward to the end of season review with the usual smooth -talking bullshit.
 
philiph20 said:
There are thousand who think exactly the same as you. I'd love to know the percentage of season-ticket holders who don't go to European games, 40%?,that last sentence sums it all up and yet we have saddoes who look forward to the end of season review with the usual smooth -talking bullshit.
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When people say "The club needs to do something about this" I laugh, because it's exactly what the club wants.
 
I'm not really here said:
Yep, think the only thing that's going to get their attention is boycotts and smuggling 'unsanctioned' banners into the ground
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I still not going to the games buy boycotting an away game might be worth a go, especially since the most brazen incidents have taken place at away matches (Anfield and Ipswich).
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I think we have to start making it unpleasant for the likes of the Barca / Anfield 8 and the Ipswich / Mallorca 8. At the moment it just seems to be our home fans who are risking their / our season cards / memberships by objecting to liberty takers.

I thought Alex’s letter was great. I don’t know why City Matters is having more reps for ethnic groups though. Surely we are all Blues together.

If ticket prices were more affordable there would be more opportunities for homegrown / local fans to go to games as well as growing the wider fan base. The haircut video was a new low. That said, the Blues who video’d Asian City fans to mock them by sharing on social media have outed themselves as racists IMHO.

It should all Blues in this together. City admin should stop selling the tickets to touting sites. There’s Blues on here who acquiesce with City clamping down on face value pages that help lots more working class fans get into the games. Shame on them.
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I can see how this thread can be construed as having racist undertones. Unfortunately, ethnicity has highlighted these anomalies with the ticketing. If you replaced the word 'Asian' with 'Day-trippers' The point still stands.

Lots of City fans can't get 3 seats together for a match. And have to sit apart from friends or family members. Yet, for a home game, in the Champions league, against Real Madrid, whole sections of the ground are chocked full of day-trippers, grouped together in huge numbers, with no affinity to the club. Next week, they will be wearing half and half scarves at Anfield, Old Trafford or Alton Towers.

When there are large sections of up to 1500 people, filming on their phones, not cheering, clapping or joining in at all, it dilutes the atmosphere for everybody else, and puts off real City fans from going to cup games, because they know it is going to be a circus. Yes, it is an open market. And the highest bidder wins, but it doesn't make it right. And it looks really shit on TV when your team are celebrating a goal with the 'fans' but they aren't celebrating back, because they're not actually fans. They don't even like football, it's just something to do for Instagram likes.
 
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I'm not really here said:
Yep, think the only thing that's going to get their attention is boycotts and smuggling 'unsanctioned' banners into the ground
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United fans hold up protest banners inside Old Trafford and they aren't removed by the club.

Liverpool fans hold up protest banners inside Anfield and they aren't removed by the club.

We've held up 1 protest banner and the club sent stewards to remove it as soon as they saw it. Accreditation was removed. And the club lied to the media about why the protest banner was removed.

The club doesn't and won't accept any decent from the fans.

It's not a good image for the club, and for Sheikh Mansour.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I still not going to the games buy boycotting an away game might be worth a go, especially since the most brazen incidents have taken place at away matches (Anfield and Ipswich).
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My idea of boycotting home games, is simply not using the season card and not selling or transferring it so the seat is empty. Boycotting away games your not buying tickets for are simply sold to whoever will buy them. An away boycott would only be effective if you bought the ticket and not turned up.

That's my view anyway
 
jrb said:
United fans hold up protest banners inside Old Trafford and they aren't removed by the club.

Liverpool fans hold up protest banners inside Anfield and they aren't removed by the club.

We've held up 1 protest banner and the club sent stewards to remove it as soon as they saw it. Accreditation was removed. And the club lied to the media about why the protest banner was removed.

The club doesn't and won't accept any decent from the fans.

It's not a good image for the club, and for Sheikh Mansour.
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That's why I said they need to be smuggled, and plenty of fans behind it, so stewards would have a hard time confiscating it, and it would draw attention to it, plenty of phones recording a disturbance like that would be all over twitter and Facebook. Club struggle to ignore negative attention like that
 
This decent and unhappyness is a growing problem for the club.

It has spread from a few unhappy loons on Blue Moon, that the club laughed at, to fan groups, and across the whole fan base, minus tourists, day trippers, and football fans, who the club can rely on not to complain.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I still not going to the games buy boycotting an away game might be worth a go, especially since the most brazen incidents have taken place at away matches (Anfield and Ipswich).
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The incidents at away games are more of an issue as the tickets could have gone to City fans. The club has an excuse for selling to all and sundry for home games when City fans don't/won't/can't turn up.
 
Citi-leaks said:
I can see how this tread can be construed as having racist undertones. Unfortunately, ethnicity has highlighted these anomalies with the ticketing. If you replaced the word 'Asian' with 'Day-trippers' The point still stands.

Lots of City fans can't get 3 seats together for a match. And have to sit apart from friends or family members. Yet, for a home game, in the Champions league, against Real Madrid, whole sections of the ground are chocked full of day-trippers, grouped together in huge numbers, with no affinity to the club. Next week, they will be wearing half and half scarves at Anfield, Old Trafford or Alton Towers.

When there are large sections of up to 1500 people, filming on their phones, not cheering, clapping or joining in at all, it dilutes the atmosphere for everybody else, and puts off real City fans from going to cup games, because they know it is going to be a circus. Yes, it is an open market. And the highest bidder wins, but it doesn't make it right. And it looks really shit on TV when your team are celebrating a goal with the 'fans' but they aren't celebrating back, because they're not actually fans. They don't even like football, it's just something to do for Instagram likes.
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You’ve misrepresented my point. I highlighted people videoing Asian City fans and then posting them on social media to mock those fans and the Club. The point still stand stands that that’s shithouse envious probably underpinned by racisms.

The rest of your post that has little to do with mine i maybe could have agreed with. That said, it’s slightly worrying when a poster sees the word Asian and assumes I’m sticking up for day trippers over some priced out Bllues.

Btw, an important part of our history was forcing the National Front off the Kippax.
 
I'm not really here said:
That's why I said they need to be smuggled, and plenty of fans behind it, so stewards would have a hard time confiscating it, and it would draw attention to it, plenty of phones recording a disturbance like that would be all over twitter and Facebook. Club struggle to ignore negative attention like that
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Pictures of the banner went viral. The club were condemned for removing it, and lying about why it was removed. It was a self-inflicted PR disaster for the club. But they were desperate to get the protest banner down from SSL2.They actually highlighted the protest banner more by their actions
 
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jrb said:
Pictures of the banner went viral. The club were condemned for removing it, and lying about why it was removed. It was a PR disaster for the club. They actually highlighted the protest banner more by their actions
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Clearly effective, and I think it needs to be repeated over and over until the club actually do something, As the first one seems to have been brushed under the carpet now with no change to pricing.

Maybe 'Soriano out' banners will be present in the near future if this continues
 
Citi-leaks said:
I can see how this tread can be construed as having racist undertones. Unfortunately, ethnicity has highlighted these anomalies with the ticketing. If you replaced the word 'Asian' with 'Day-trippers' The point still stands.

Lots of City fans can't get 3 seats together for a match. And have to sit apart from friends or family members. Yet, for a home game, in the Champions league, against Real Madrid, whole sections of the ground are chocked full of day-trippers, grouped together in huge numbers, with no affinity to the club. Next week, they will be wearing half and half scarves at Anfield, Old Trafford or Alton Towers.

When there are large sections of up to 1500 people, filming on their phones, not cheering, clapping or joining in at all, it dilutes the atmosphere for everybody else, and puts off real City fans from going to cup games, because they know it is going to be a circus. Yes, it is an open market. And the highest bidder wins, but it doesn't make it right. And it looks really shit on TV when your team are celebrating a goal with the 'fans' but they aren't celebrating back, because they're not actually fans. They don't even like football, it's just something to do for Instagram likes.
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I construe that you saying it can be misconstrued as having racist undertones . . . as utter bollox. It doesn't at all
 
Stockton Heath Blue said:
I've heard a few around me suggest they will be binning the CL cup scheme next season. Basically, fed up of being surrounded by tourists - either partisan or passive. Most you can have a chat and everything is fine.
I've seen it get a bit spiky at times, but it properly kicked off behind me with a regular at FT, who quite clearly had had enough with one RM celebrating. He's been going for as long as i know and comes with his kids for the PL games. Never seen this kind of reaction from him, ever.
This is what it's coming to. Don't know if the club's ticketing policy is deliberate, but simething needs to be done. It's a case of when, not if, someone is going to get seriously hurt.
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Problem is we have got to the stage where it's a self perpetuating circle.
'Proper' fans have stopped going because of the tourists, which leaves more space for tourists, which means more fans stop going...
 
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Problem is we have got to the stage where it's a self perpetuating circle.
'Proper' fans have stopped going because of the tourists, which leaves more space for tourists, which means more fans stop going...
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Loads of former match going blues rocking up at clubs like Stockport county and Bury now from what I hear.
 
Me and my lad use to go to alot of cl matches before covid since covid everything has gone through the roof with pricing.
Anyway even before covid we would away fans around us. Didn't happen so much in SSL3 but still had a few.
This isn't a new problem.
 
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