Away tickets

[sam 1980]

Give points for games that go on general sale that way if you move ahead of someone they’ve no one to blame but themselves

 

[OB1]

All your posts are just a howl of frustration. It's so unfair.

They are devoid of any objectivity or logic.

You don't have enough points. Tough. The new 'fairer system' does fuck all to help you.

Yeah, yeah. Poor, poor pitiful me!

I can only talk to the specifics that apply to me. I don't think the system is fair to far more people that you think it is fair to. The question is who has a more objective view of fair.

The very latest system is no better because it just cements things for the minority.

It's become something akin to a monopoly or oligopoly.

 

[OB1]

Fair enough mate, as a former "out of towner" myself I get that but generally if you asked people "would you want the points system to change purely so you had a better chance of getting a ticket for West Ham away?" I don't think the answer would be a resounding yes.

I'm not an out of towner: I'm a Manc in exile ;-)

 

[OB1]

Why? Is it SC0 USE W4N KER5?

It makes it very clear who I support :)

 

[Eds]

I did you the courtesy of responding to what I thought was a genuine post. Why behave like a shithouse?

It was a genuine post and a genuine reply although I will accept your apology. The issue is that everyone talks about points whores but do people genuinely think there are individual fans who decide to buy an away ticket just for the points so they have enough to go to the derby or Klanfield? It's just a non starter. I will admit I have in the past occasionally bought a ticket for mates who have asked if I am not going can I sort them out - these are usually the ones that go very low in points - and occasionally I have had a spare ticket due to my son's arrangements changing near to match day. Does that make me a whore or my son? I don't think so. I know of one blue on here who went to what I suspect is 90% of all away games last year and he bought his ticket off here pretty much every time. Is everyone who helped him out a whore as well. However it appears that the sources that are regularly abused are by the supporter branches and by the corporates yet nobody bats an eyelid hence my comment. I for one think that the points whore is a myth although it appears I may be in the minority.

 

[Eds]

I thought the fans going home and away in the 70s were the older fans who the younger fans feel disadvantahed by. Can't have it both ways. I started in the 70s and am in he same boat, was told well in advance of the change of system, and teh writing was on the wall in 1999 with stubs being counted, I don't expect more points for before 1998 when the system gives credit for in some ways. I do not expect credit for the friendlies that were not counted on the system before around 2007, as that was the rules.

Well into the points system we could't fill out Anfield, and were 1000 short for Goodison, 3k short away at wigan, but the same fans who went in the post violence era were still there.

Putting some context on the Wigan game, wasn't that the one that was boycotted due to the huge rise in prices? Well short of selling out places like Villa Park, Highbury, WHL etc as well IIRC

 

[Eds]

I’ve got tickets for this game twice, but not qualified when it was the two bank holiday fixtures.
Although I’m well aware of others that went with less than half the points I had at the time

How did those people source those tickets?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It was a genuine post and a genuine reply although I will accept your apology. The issue is that everyone talks about points whores but do people genuinely think there are individual fans who decide to buy an away ticket just for the points so they have enough to go to the derby or Klanfield? It's just a non starter. I will admit I have in the past occasionally bought a ticket for mates who have asked if I am not going can I sort them out - these are usually the ones that go very low in points - and occasionally I have had a spare ticket due to my son's arrangements changing near to match day. Does that make me a whore or my son? I don't think so. I know of one blue on here who went to what I suspect is 90% of all away games last year and he bought his ticket off here pretty much every time. Is everyone who helped him out a whore as well. However it appears that the sources that are regularly abused are by the supporter branches and by the corporates yet nobody bats an eyelid hence my comment. I for one think that the points whore is a myth although it appears I may be in the minority.

There are a few posters on here (including a Legend of this Forum) who buy spares to make them available to other lifelong Blues at face value. In doing so, they eliminate the risk of the tickets ending up with touts. That might be how your mate got some of his tickets. They are at the opposite end of spectrum to the small minority of “points whores”

Everyone knows on this Forum that I’m happy to discuss Supporters Club issues but those threads always get pulled so I don’t intend to get into a debate that would derail this thread.

 

[fathellensbellend]

Surely games like the community shield should offer loyalty points, thousands of tickets left, surely a decent incentive would shift a few, for those who want to progress the door is closed, how can that ever help sales.

 

[sam 1980]

Putting some context on the Wigan game, wasn't that the one that was boycotted due to the huge rise in prices? Well short of selling out places like Villa Park, Highbury, WHL etc as well IIRC

Thought that was Bolton could be wrong tho