Away tickets

Looks that way. I may be jumping the gun here, it's possible that they just forgot to put the '40 points for attending' content on or I missed it, but if I'm not...

It means that the current hierarchy has been set in stone. You are where you are in the pecking order now. No moving up or down. No need to worry that you will fall further behind by skipping early rounds (midweek away) of the League cup. No chance to move up and qualify for Bournemouth away in your own right instead of relying on points whores. Once you're no longer young enough to qualify for the ballot you'll be as far behind as ever and you'll never have a chance to catch up.

Lets take the most meritocratic system in the Premier League and remove the meritocratic bit from it.

Genius.

It's not meritocratic though, is it?

Someone born in 1992 or 2002 could love City every much as someone born in 1962 but because of the loyalty points system, he's not gonna get the same opportunities to go and never gonna have the chance to catch up to him. The U25 ballot system is imperfect but it's a lot better than what went before.
 
It's not meritocratic though, is it?

Someone born in 1992 or 2002 could love City every much as someone born in 1962 but because of the loyalty points system, he's not gonna get the same opportunities to go and never gonna have the chance to catch up to him. The U25 ballot system is imperfect but it's a lot better than what went before.

A ballot if they have 14k points maybe, but not anyone who has not made any effort.
 
A ballot if they have 14k points maybe, but not anyone who has not made any effort.

A lot of 17 year olds can put in as much effort as they want, they won't be able to get to 14K points because the tickets aren't available (bar maybe 4 or 5 aways) unless they've had a parent buying them a seasonticket since they was a toddler.
 
A lot of 17 year olds can put in as much effort as they want, they won't be able to get to 14K points because the tickets aren't available (bar maybe 4 or 5 aways) unless they've had a parent buying them a seasonticket since they was a toddler.

Same for all new fans.
 
It's not meritocratic though, is it?

Someone born in 1992 or 2002 could love City every much as someone born in 1962 but because of the loyalty points system, he's not gonna get the same opportunities to go and never gonna have the chance to catch up to him. The U25 ballot system is imperfect but it's a lot better than what went before.

... and we're off, same old same old arguments zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...

FWIW, I'm OK, I have ~21K points and last year went to 56 out of 61 games.
Of the games I wanted to attend, I only missed out on Newport away.

This season I could skip every single away game and still preserve my place near the front of the queue. (I'm obviously not going to do that).
A friend of mine on ~17K points could attend every away game he qualified for and not get any closer to me.

Is that more or less meritocratic do you think?
 

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