wolfie1988
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No abuse whatsoever. In fact he called me self entitled because I'm not one of his sheep. Not a great look for my "representative".
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Away tickets
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No abuse whatsoever. In fact he called me self entitled because I'm not one of his sheep. Not a great look for my "representative".
AkanjisAfro
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im struggling to see the big fuss about the collection of tickets as long as the club keep the amount collecting to a reasonable level. all collections will be dealt with by club staff at the ground so theres no travelling out of the way involved.
Bigg Bigg Blue
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I said on here at least half a dozen times to the rep that it didn't quite seem right that the City Matters group was practically made up with supporter club members and the chairman too, to which he said it had no bearing on what decisions would be made.
Absoulte fuckin bollocks.
Just to point out that Kevin Parker is not the chairman of the supporters club, it's Alan Galley and he is NOT on the CM forum.
This whole issue is a difficult one. Sitting on 15k points I regularly miss out and seem to be getting further away from a lot of games and the fact that SC members with less points regularly get tickets annoys the hell out of me.
But we all know something needs to be done and I have no problem whatsoever with picking my ticket up at the ground. I’ve said many times before that I’ve done this with England aways for 15 years and it works fine. Forget the Celtic debacle, this can be done with ease if it’s done correctly.
It will be interesting to see what the take up will be for certain games that may have been bought by points whores. If it helps genuine fans further down the ladder then great but if they go to SC’s then clearly that isn’t right. It was clearly proven that it made a difference in European games when they implemented pick up, the number of points needed shot right down. After the club messed up at Celtic and reneged on the ticket pick up you saw the next game shoot right up in points again. It was obvious for everyone to see why.
But we all know something needs to be done and I have no problem whatsoever with picking my ticket up at the ground. I’ve said many times before that I’ve done this with England aways for 15 years and it works fine. Forget the Celtic debacle, this can be done with ease if it’s done correctly.
It will be interesting to see what the take up will be for certain games that may have been bought by points whores. If it helps genuine fans further down the ladder then great but if they go to SC’s then clearly that isn’t right. It was clearly proven that it made a difference in European games when they implemented pick up, the number of points needed shot right down. After the club messed up at Celtic and reneged on the ticket pick up you saw the next game shoot right up in points again. It was obvious for everyone to see why.
Bigg Bigg Blue
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From what I can make out this means that with me having well over 25000 points I can miss every away game this season and still get a ticket for any away game in the 20/21 season.
AkanjisAfro
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Agreed on everything thereThis whole issue is a difficult one. Sitting on 15k points I regularly miss out and seem to be getting further away from a lot of games and the fact that SC members with less points regularly get tickets annoys the hell out of me.
But we all know something needs to be done and I have no problem whatsoever with picking my ticket up at the ground. I’ve said many times before that I’ve done this with England aways for 15 years and it works fine. Forget the Celtic debacle, this can be done with ease if it’s done correctly.
It will be interesting to see what the take up will be for certain games that may have been bought by points whores. If it helps genuine fans further down the ladder then great but if they go to SC’s then clearly that isn’t right. It was clearly proven that it made a difference in European games when they implemented pick up, the number of points needed shot right down. After the club messed up at Celtic and reneged on the ticket pick up you saw the next game shoot right up in points again. It was obvious for everyone to see why.
the reason Celtic went wrong was because with it being so close people didn't turn up in dribs and drabs so couldn't cope with the surge. i had no problems collecting in paris. plus this will only be a small amount collecting not the full allocation.
ell
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No perhaps not but I think a ballot would be 100x fairer regardless.Of course yeah but you can sometimes take a call on site.
It’s not going to be the same 150 though is it?
Last year at Spurs there was a large number of fans that had to collect tickets due to being moved by Spurs themselves. As far as I know this didn't cause a problem. Too much emphasis is being put on how collection of tickets is a huge problem. If they decided to have a random 5% of the allocation collect tickets which equates to 150 supporters is that really a bad thing. If the argument is that points whores are buying tickets to pass on then this will at least tackle that. Those that do buy tickets and pass on will now be forced to travel to the fixture if they get randomly selected or face a ban on buying tickets. This will intern free up more tickets for everyone as those on high points wont take the risk.
Manchester33
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I'm unsure of these changes as a whole. I'm not convinced ticket collections will work logistically (Celtic away springs to mind). I'm not sure that removing ticket points for away games changes anything. I do, however, think that the 18-25 y/o allocation is a good idea. I think people with higher points get irritated that people with fewer ticket points qualify for tickets ahead of them in some cases, and I can understand that. Unfortunately, people aged 18-25 are too young to have accumulated the number of away games as those who're 35+. I don't think the younger generation of fans should be indirectly punished because they simply weren't old enough to start going when the ticket point system was introduced. I also feel that our away support has been getting worse in recent years. Whether or not this is to do with differences in expectation or not, I'm not sure. But I do think these younger fans are in the age bracket that would probably create more noise on the whole.
As a rule of thumb, I don't think we as fans should be blaming each other. We all want the same thing. Away tickets have only become an issue with the huge influx of corporate tickets. There are people complaining that a bunch of young lads (who all have season cards) are going to get 5% of the tickets, when 5 or 6x that amount are given out to corporates and sponsors. Even the supporters clubs get abuse and I'm sure there's good branches and bad branches, however they're going to people who contribute to a SC and who're making the effort to support City on the whole.
We need to change the focus from squabbling amongst ourselves about a tiny piece of the pie, to reclaiming that pie from businesses and wealthy people who use the club as a means to entertain their clients (who couldn't care less about our club).
I know for a fact we have supporters with boxes and corporate tickets who can get 10 tickets to any away game they want. That's why Old Trafford and Anfield sell out at such high points. All those people with those points are going to the less attractive games as well. It's the corporates who claim their tickets for the big games.
As a rule of thumb, I don't think we as fans should be blaming each other. We all want the same thing. Away tickets have only become an issue with the huge influx of corporate tickets. There are people complaining that a bunch of young lads (who all have season cards) are going to get 5% of the tickets, when 5 or 6x that amount are given out to corporates and sponsors. Even the supporters clubs get abuse and I'm sure there's good branches and bad branches, however they're going to people who contribute to a SC and who're making the effort to support City on the whole.
We need to change the focus from squabbling amongst ourselves about a tiny piece of the pie, to reclaiming that pie from businesses and wealthy people who use the club as a means to entertain their clients (who couldn't care less about our club).
I know for a fact we have supporters with boxes and corporate tickets who can get 10 tickets to any away game they want. That's why Old Trafford and Anfield sell out at such high points. All those people with those points are going to the less attractive games as well. It's the corporates who claim their tickets for the big games.
Blues this is turning into a bit of Lynch mob. We're all blues, let's not let this get ugly. It's a complicated subject, lots of people feel passionate about one system or the other.
In hindsight City should have canvassed opinion anonymously from all season card holders and made the decision themselves. That way if people are unhappy they vent their anger at the club not individual blues.
In hindsight City should have canvassed opinion anonymously from all season card holders and made the decision themselves. That way if people are unhappy they vent their anger at the club not individual blues.