Aymeric Laporte

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The number of defenders issue is pretty much fixed though if we don't play them in midfield, which wouldn't have to happen if Pep had any faith in Phillips.

If he's staying, and if we aren't trying to force him to leave, he needs to step up and be an actual footballer this season.
 
Last season we had cancelo too and we all assumed gomez would be an adequate zinchenko replacement which he isn't and i suspect he won't play a single minute that matters at the back for us this season, him playing pre-season as a winger along with a change in formation I think shows pep doesn't see him as an option at the back other than to rest players in already won games.

We started the season with 7 options and then bought akanji last minute as we didn't think it was enough. Then even with akanji, we had a few injuries early in the season with walker, stones, dias and laporte missing a lot of games before the world cup which saw a substantial drop in form and forced pep into bringing in Rico Lewis from nowhere as a 9th option.

We can't go into the season with 7 defenders again and rely on finding a second Rico Lewis from the academy or playing rodri there again if we have a similar, not uncommon number of injuries at any period in the season.

It's an incredibly thin squad as is, not replacing any player we lose now is just asking for problems.

If we keep THB around then fair enough that could be the solution but him not even joining the pre-season tour probably indicates he isn't going to be integrated in.
Right but what do you expect Laporte to do, and what do you expect any new signing to do? Just sit on the bench and fill in for the 15 games we might need them for? It's not realistic. We have 8 defensive options (10 if you include Rodri and Phillips as last ditch CB options) - we achieved more with less last season.
 
@ninjamonkey

The number of defenders issue is pretty much fixed though if we don't play them in midfield, which wouldn't have to happen if Pep had any faith in Phillips.

If he's staying, and if we aren't trying to force him to leave, he needs to step up and be an actual footballer this season.

Phillips is the rodri alternative, or should be. He's not going to be playing the role stones is playing where he's moving into midfield from cb or Rico Lewis moving into midfield from fullback. Not going to say never because pep can do anything but he's yet to set us up with 3 defenders on the pitch and don't expect he will do unless injuries force it upon him. 4 defenders always start.

Right but what do you expect Laporte to do, and what do you expect any new signing to do? Just sit on the bench and fill in for the 15 games we might need them for? It's not realistic. We have 8 defensive options (10 if you include Rodri and Phillips as last ditch CB options) - we achieved more with less last season.

I completely understand Laporte wanting to move on, down the pecking order, doesn't quite fit in the system and still an outstanding defender that could start for pretty much any side in europe, makes sense he would want out and l said nothing about that, what I said was if he's to leave, he needs replacing as it leaves us short on numbers again.

It's silly to include Phillips and rodri as defensive options, unless you're looking at the defensive unit as a 5. who plays in their positions if they're played out of position? If Laporte goes and assuming cancelo is following him and gomez isn't playing in defence then we've got 7 options for 4 spots.

last season we had 8 options by the close of the window and had to bring in rico lewis from the academy as the 9th because it proved 8 wasnt enough yet youre happy to go into the season with 1 less than what wasn't enough last season?

Arsenal have white, timber, tomiyasu, kiwor, saliba, Gabriel, zinchenko, Tierney, holding, 9 options, liverpool similar, United have about 10, chelsea have god knows how many. it's not only realistic, but is in actual fact the norm to have a minimum of 8 defenders in the squad
 
Phillips is the rodri alternative, or should be. He's not going to be playing the role stones is playing where he's moving into midfield from cb or Rico Lewis moving into midfield from fullback. Not going to say never because pep can do anything but he's yet to set us up with 3 defenders on the pitch and don't expect he will do unless injuries force it upon him. 4 defenders always start.



I completely understand Laporte wanting to move on, down the pecking order, doesn't quite fit in the system and still an outstanding defender that could start for pretty much any side in europe, makes sense he would want out and l said nothing about that, what I said was if he's to leave, he needs replacing as it leaves us short on numbers again.

It's silly to include Phillips and rodri as defensive options, unless you're looking at the defensive unit as a 5. who plays in their positions if they're played out of position? If Laporte goes and assuming cancelo is following him and gomez isn't playing in defence then we've got 7 options for 4 spots.

last season we had 8 options by the close of the window and had to bring in rico lewis from the academy as the 9th because it proved 8 wasnt enough yet youre happy to go into the season with 1 less than what wasn't enough last season?

Arsenal have white, timber, tomiyasu, kiwor, saliba, Gabriel, zinchenko, Tierney, holding, 9 options, liverpool similar, United have about 10, chelsea have god knows how many. it's not only realistic, but is in actual fact the norm to have a minimum of 8 defenders in the squad
Gvardiol/Gomez
Ake /Dias
Stones/Akanji
Walker/Lewis

Thats 8, 3 will be on the bench. we dont have space to carry a Laporte with the 2 attackers we want in. Gomez will be a squad filler at best out of that lot. Only so many spaces to go around.
 
I’d be hoping it’s £16m because he’s leaving Europe and it would be £40m+ if he was staying in the premier league or Europe
 
I’d be hoping it’s £16m because he’s leaving Europe and it would be £40m+ if he was staying in the premier league or Europe

Why do you believe it would be 16m?

I just don't understand how anyone can think there is any sense in it. Or that the club would do something that makes no sense.
 
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Ah! £16mill? WTF! Ain’t £16mill shit happening for Eric!

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Why do you believe it would be 16m?

I just don't understand how anyone can think there is any sense in it. Or that the club would do something that makes no sense.
I’m just going off the rumour as is everyone else
 
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