Backing Hughes for a change.

dom said:
I've been to-ing and fro-ing over this one for the past few weeks.

I was really angry about the way we blew 2 games in a row at the death the way we did. I ws furius and my kneejerk was 'hughes Out'
However on reflecting in the cool light of the net day i feel the following.

a) It was defensive errors that cost us and top classs defenders shoul not need reminding abou tracking back

b) Stevie I was played out of position but we have really no otions at left mid just now with petrov out. Maybe he should have plyed Garrido at left mid in but he's cominig back from injury and MH learned the hard way about bringing players back too early with Robby.

c) We played some neat footy at ties yesterday but couldn't finish our chances.

d) If we were to sack Hughes this early , who is available and willing to replace him?

e) Isuspect that anyway the owners are not quite as fickle as that cowboy Frank.

f) We cannot fully judge Hughes til he has selected his own men and the ones he selected so far have done well.


So ATM from me it's Hughes to stay at least for the next couple of months or even the end of the season.

All very sensible. But there's a but.

How long would you let this continue before you thought "Oh shit we are going to get relegated, we are going to have to sack Hughes and get someone else in to save us QUICK".

Would you leave it until after 25 games? 30? 35? New manager with 3 games to go?

Or do you just sink down into the water, saluting, singing the dambusters march until there's only bubbles on the surface?
 
Chippy_boy said:
dom said:
I've been to-ing and fro-ing over this one for the past few weeks.

I was really angry about the way we blew 2 games in a row at the death the way we did. I ws furius and my kneejerk was 'hughes Out'
However on reflecting in the cool light of the net day i feel the following.

a) It was defensive errors that cost us and top classs defenders shoul not need reminding abou tracking back

b) Stevie I was played out of position but we have really no otions at left mid just now with petrov out. Maybe he should have plyed Garrido at left mid in but he's cominig back from injury and MH learned the hard way about bringing players back too early with Robby.

c) We played some neat footy at ties yesterday but couldn't finish our chances.

d) If we were to sack Hughes this early , who is available and willing to replace him?

e) Isuspect that anyway the owners are not quite as fickle as that cowboy Frank.

f) We cannot fully judge Hughes til he has selected his own men and the ones he selected so far have done well.


So ATM from me it's Hughes to stay at least for the next couple of months or even the end of the season.

All very sensible. But there's a but.

How long would you let this continue before you thought "Oh shit we are going to get relegated, we are going to have to sack Hughes and get someone else in to save us QUICK".

Would you leave it until after 25 games? 30? 35? New manager with 3 games to go?

Or do you just sink down into the water, saluting, singing the dambusters march until there's only bubbles on the surface?

Im not a Les fan - But who could we get as manager who would fullfill our criteria ie get out of relegation AND win the chumps league in a few years - there is no-one currently available with both those attributes.

IMHO - Les will keep his job by default as there is currently no-one available who fits our profile.
 
Terry Nutkins said:
Apologies for starting another thread on Hughes but I didn’t want this post to get lost in all the other posts.

I’ve been a city fan since I was in my dad’s sack, and one of the things I love about being a city fan, is the fans. What it means to be a fan and how as city fans we are used to constant under achievement, but in spite of that we follow City through thick and thin and always get behind our beloved team.

But recently it seems that has changed, it seems to me that a lot of so called “fans” believe that as we are now the richest club in the world we have some sort of divine right to be world beaters.

People don’t seem to believe that it will take time. You can use the example of old red nose at the swamp, but if you look more recently and take the example of O’Neil at Villa, in his first season in charge they were around the drop zone and struggling for much of the season and then in recent years they have built on from the initial platform that he put in place and now seem to be serious top 4 contenders.

Now with what I have read many people on here will no doubt strongly disagree with me but I personally feel that Hughes is the right man for the job.

Firstly look at the players he has brought in, SWP, Kompany, Zabaleta have all been superb. I don’t think he had much to do with Robbie or Jo, and although TBH looks dodgy overall I think that is a pretty good record so far.

Then I look at how the team were playing in the early part of the season. The football against Sunderland, West Ham, Arsenal, Stoke, Pompey and even the first half against Liverpool we looked superb, and although we have played shite in recent times the team has potential.

He also instills discipline in players, if elano sees his arse he should be dropped. No single player is bigger than the club and although I liked Eriksson I felt he was run by some of the bigger names where as Hughes doesn’t seem to be fazed by giving them a bollocking.

And finally who will replace him? I don’t think there is any one there at the moment better equipped to take our club forward.

So there it is rant over. All I ask is that you give Hughes time, be patient and look forward to the good times because having waiting 30 odd years since our last trophy win, I can certainly wait another 2/3 years for us to take over the world.

CTID
I thought this fella was spot on.The last thing we need is upheaval again.MH is a good manager we have to support him through this tricky time.
 
salfordtrueblue said:
Terry Nutkins said:
Apologies for starting another thread on Hughes but I didn’t want this post to get lost in all the other posts.

I’ve been a city fan since I was in my dad’s sack, and one of the things I love about being a city fan, is the fans. What it means to be a fan and how as city fans we are used to constant under achievement, but in spite of that we follow City through thick and thin and always get behind our beloved team.

But recently it seems that has changed, it seems to me that a lot of so called “fans” believe that as we are now the richest club in the world we have some sort of divine right to be world beaters.

People don’t seem to believe that it will take time. You can use the example of old red nose at the swamp, but if you look more recently and take the example of O’Neil at Villa, in his first season in charge they were around the drop zone and struggling for much of the season and then in recent years they have built on from the initial platform that he put in place and now seem to be serious top 4 contenders.

Now with what I have read many people on here will no doubt strongly disagree with me but I personally feel that Hughes is the right man for the job.

Firstly look at the players he has brought in, SWP, Kompany, Zabaleta have all been superb. I don’t think he had much to do with Robbie or Jo, and although TBH looks dodgy overall I think that is a pretty good record so far.

Then I look at how the team were playing in the early part of the season. The football against Sunderland, West Ham, Arsenal, Stoke, Pompey and even the first half against Liverpool we looked superb, and although we have played shite in recent times the team has potential.

He also instills discipline in players, if elano sees his arse he should be dropped. No single player is bigger than the club and although I liked Eriksson I felt he was run by some of the bigger names where as Hughes doesn’t seem to be fazed by giving them a bollocking.

And finally who will replace him? I don’t think there is any one there at the moment better equipped to take our club forward.

So there it is rant over. All I ask is that you give Hughes time, be patient and look forward to the good times because having waiting 30 odd years since our last trophy win, I can certainly wait another 2/3 years for us to take over the world.

CTID
I thought this fella was spot on.The last thing we need is upheaval again.MH is a good manager we have to support him through this tricky time.

Totally agree. Some of Hughes' decisions are baffling, and I don't much like him, but there's no point at all in getting rid of him within six months. This league is the most open it's been for years. Only fifteen points separate top and bottom, and UEFA cup qualification is still a distinct possibility. I was baying for blood yesterday with everyone else, but let's judge him after January. There's potential with this squad, but some bad injuries at present.
 
How have we got ourselves in the position of allowing certain players to think they are bigger than the club. Oh that would be when we sold our souls wouldn't it.

It is essential that Mark Hughes wins this battle cos if he doesn't then we might as well all give up and go home.

If certain players don't like hard work or new training methods or any other aspect of the running of the club then there is a very easy complaints procedure. Its called a transfer request. But when was the last time you heard of one of those.
 
i think its very simple

he need's to go for us to regain confidence

unfair i know but imo its true
 
get rid
the guy is hopeless. we've lost to WBA that is unacceptable
we're in the bottom 3 thats unacceptable
he can't man manage different players. unacceptable
his tactics are shit

time is up
 

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