baconface at it again!! mouthy ****

There is a light said:
I really hope he is still about when we are able to rub his nose in it.

He will think differently then.

He's managed Man U for what, 22 odd years, he is the most succesfull British manager, he's won more trophies then we could ever dream about, and realistically ever win. Something tells me that there is no way at all that he could be made feel inferior to City.

Ya he's a Man U manager, but at some point shouldn't he be given some sort of respect? I mean without question he is the smartest football manager around and what he says, without being totally blinded by bias, usually has some sort of sense to it.

xirtarg said:
In all fairness. he's only echoing what the majority of people on here have been saying. Just because it's coming from a rag means everyone's getting defensive. Until we've sorted out the back of our team, we aren't gonna win anything, we simply concede too many goals

And I agree, we've 10 forwards, there's no way we're going to keep all of, the majority, of them happy, and we're paying high wages for them to not even make the squad. And then we're spread thin at the back, it's a problem.
And with the back four that we have we're in trouble.

And he's right, why should he worry about us? I mean his main focus will be on proven contenders such as Liverpool and Chelsea, is he wrong to think that? No.

I mean, everything he said is true, he's not trying to get one over on us, it's not a dig at us, he's much more ruthless then that, he's just saying that Liverpool and Chelsea will be their main title rivals, and they will be. City could pull off a shock but come on, if you were a betting man would you put you're mortgage on City winning the title?

I mean despite what some of ye might think, he knows what he's talking about.
And like it's all ready been said, he's not "dismissing" City, he's just making the statement that Liverpool and Chelsea are the main threats..which they are.

It's actually an interesting read.
We've bought a lot of superstars who expect lots of money and starting time and to be the star.
When realistically, we're fecked when it comes down to it, we're just going to have alot of unhappy "superstars." And it's not like we've bought humble forwards who don't expect to be starting and don't expect that they'll need to work to get a place, it's not like when Man U bought Owen, he knows full well that of recent form he'd be lucky to make the bench of the reserves. Everyone of the players we've bought in the transfer market over the summer think highly enough of themselves.


"They have bought a lot of high profile players but they have 10 strikers. That is a hell of a lot.

"I have not spoken to all the managers but the one or two I have are saying "Who are they going to leave out?"

"How do you tell players they are not even going to be travelling to London? How does he pick a team? We are all interested."

It was bad enough for Ferguson to inform senior stars like Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo they would not be going to Wembley for an FA Cup semi-final with Everton.

At least he could offer the Champions League as an alternative. Hughes can't, which just makes handling the expanding collection of talent gathered at Eastlands all the more problematic.

He's dead right in all of the comments above.

People are getting so wound up about this, but what exactly has he said that isn't the truth?

Right now we're looking at a group of individuals, some of which are excellent players. But I'd rather an excellent team to a players that only play for themselves.
Players feel privileged to play for Man U, humbled almost. I want that at City. I want it to be more of a club that players would feeled privileged to come and play with instead of just a big pay day, which I have a feeling some think all ready, and they are the players who will only care about their own success, someone who'll put themselves and their own interests ahead of the club's.
 
Regardless of the truth of his comments, if you think that he wasn't having a sly dig at City you're kidding yourselves. It was the same before last year's derby too... he can't help himself.

From The Guardian: "Well, you just name their best team and then ask where it would go and you would have to say that they would struggle to get into the top four."

The guy's a complete weapon and I'm telling you now, we ARE getting under his skin. Does he think we'll be up their for the league title next year? I doubt it very much. But does he think our time is coming? I rather guess he does.
 
Wooderbeen said:
Regardless of the truth of his comments, if you think that he wasn't having a sly dig at City you're kidding yourselves. It was the same before last year's derby too... he can't help himself.

From The Guardian: "Well, you just name their best team and then ask where it would go and you would have to say that they would struggle to get into the top four."

The guy's a complete weapon and I'm telling you now, we ARE getting under his skin. Does he think we'll be up their for the league title next year? I doubt it very much. But does he think our time is coming? I rather guess he does.

Again, what he says is true, especially if that's from last season. It did struggle to compete with the top 4 and we barely finished in the top 10, so he was right. I don't see how that's a dig.

And I don't think he's bothered about us to be honest, got other things to be thinking about.
 
IrishMacca said:
Wooderbeen said:
Regardless of the truth of his comments, if you think that he wasn't having a sly dig at City you're kidding yourselves. It was the same before last year's derby too... he can't help himself.

From The Guardian: "Well, you just name their best team and then ask where it would go and you would have to say that they would struggle to get into the top four."

The guy's a complete weapon and I'm telling you now, we ARE getting under his skin. Does he think we'll be up their for the league title next year? I doubt it very much. But does he think our time is coming? I rather guess he does.

Again, what he says is true, especially if that's from last season. It did struggle to compete with the top 4 and we barely finished in the top 10, so he was right. I don't see how that's a dig.

And I don't think he's bothered about us to be honest, got other things to be thinking about.
You really think the team this coming season will resemble the one that finished that far down? Oh and he's bothered about us... apparently it's our fault he can't buy any players. I'll take that as back door victory number one this year!
 
The bacon is sizzling and not long to go before it is well burnt.

You can't sustain 'The World's Greatest Club' palava if you are second best in your home town.
The mere chance that this might happen would have the rag hierarchy worried. Now that it is happening, they will start to look desparate and ridiculous very very quickly.

I promise ya, the loss of Ronaldo and our instoppable rise will issue in a new era in Manchester way way quicker than all you '6th place will be OK' pussies can imagine.

Bwahahah, Bwahahahaha, Bwahahahahahahahahah
 
Wooderbeen said:
IrishMacca said:
Again, what he says is true, especially if that's from last season. It did struggle to compete with the top 4 and we barely finished in the top 10, so he was right. I don't see how that's a dig.

And I don't think he's bothered about us to be honest, got other things to be thinking about.
You really think the team this coming season will resemble the one that finished that far down? Oh and he's bothered about us... apparently it's our fault he can't buy any players. I'll take that as back door victory number one this year!

No but he made that comment last season, before any of the summer transfer business, and back then he was right. That's all I'm saying. And I don't think he's too bothered about us. He's a strong squad, everyone respects his decisions, he pretty much runs things at the club, unlike at Liverpool or Chelsea..etc. He gets to decide what players to bring in and what players to get rid of. He's done an excellent job over the 20 odd years he's been a Man U manager. If he thinks his shopping is done for the summer and he's enough players, well I think people should trust his judgement. Like I said, having an excellent team is better then having an excellent bunch of individuals. You'll never win anything with a team of players only interested in themselves. Players who play for Man U see it as an honour, does Robinho feel humbled and privileged everytime he pulls on the shirt, no, it's about the money. That's why he's here.
And we've set the prize of what to spend on players too high in my opinion, no player is worth what we've been paying for them. And to be honest, if Hughes bought a big name tomorrow and Fergie bought an unknown young player, I could see our lad being a flop while Man U's scoring a Premiership winning goal for Man U. He's not an idiot.
But he's the manager of one of the biggest clubs in the world, 79,000 fans in the stadium for a home game, with some of the best young players you could find, going for their 4th title in a row, and the CL and pretty much every other trophey. Do I think he's worried about us, no. I think he's enjoying his time off before a very trying and hectic life kicks back in.
If he spent half his time worrying about us, like you seem to think he does, then there's no way he would have been successful as a mangager. You look after you're own club, you're own players.

You don't spend time worrying about a team that for all the money in the world has made a few stupid buys, I mean 10 big name, big ego forwards who will be misserable and bring a bad attitude to the camp if they're not in the squad, and then we've poor players in the back four. Right now we've no ballance to the team and something the most successful manager in England isn't going to spend time worrying over.

He worries about his own team, like we'll worry about ours. It's the way it should be.
 
@Irishmacca,

You're not related to Fergie are you? I don't understand this obesession with United's kids... we're not doing too badly in that department ourselves, mate. And what has the number of fans in Old Trafford got to do with Ferguson talking about City? You're almost making out that he's got exactly what he wanted this summer... I can assure you, he hasn't. He made an offer for Tevez who chose us (for whatever reason), he lost Ronaldo and he's already admitted to missing out Benzema and Ribery, who just weren't interested in playing for them. Oh and don't worry, the summer isn't over yet, son. We'll get a couple of defenders before kick off and we'll look much stronger than we did last year.

Ferguson has said himself, in the last week, that Madrid and City have forced prices up and as such he can't go out and buy thr players he wants because their values have gone through the roof. City's dealings have made life difficult for him in the transfer market, now that alone displays we ARE getting on his tits.
 
IrishMacca said:
And to be honest, if Hughes bought a big name tomorrow and Fergie bought an unknown young player, I could see our lad being a flop while Man U's scoring a Premiership winning goal for Man U. He's not an idiot.

...................................

He worries about his own team, like we'll worry about ours. It's the way it should be.

Just a couple of points. I respect Baconface as the best manager in England over a long period of time. But your hero worship seems to go somewhat beyond this.

Second, if you think not considering your competitors but simply concentrating on your 'own house' is the way to success, you're a bit naive about professional sport in general. It sounds much like some hopeless amatuer plan for success. I can assure you that Baconface is well aware of the competition and plans around that. I can't imagine he won't have us in mind.

It is interesting to have your insight on the English game - but I think you're way off the mark in virtually everything you say.

Still, that's opinion hey. I just think yours is wrong.
 
He says Liverpool and Chelsea will be his main rivals but I have a funny feeling he is thinking what I am thinking and that it will be Arsenal who will challenge. They always seem to do best when nobody rates them. See two seasons ago when they were top for months and when they managed to get to the champions league final. I hope out of all the teams it is Arsenal we challenge for the title when we finally do as I have no doubt we will although it would be sweet to beat the rags to it.
 
Dont know if its been posted but hes also now gobbing off about how Tevez aint worth 25 mill and how Owen will be a "great signing". DREAMER WHISKEY NOSE AINT NOTHIN BUT A DREAMER
I cannot wait to see the celebration Carlitos gives to that old twisted rag twat, he said a month ago he wanted to "laugh in his face". In my eyes Carlos your already a legend.

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